Fusion Splicers & OTDR User Manuals Wanted in pdf Format (all optical test equipment)

Can you say "copyright violation"????

Isn't Google doing something like this with printed books? They want to scan every book every printed. Copyright is a concern. But have you ever had an older machine, or car, or anything that needed repair but maybe the manufacturer no longer exists, for instance. I wonder if one scanned and posted that machine's user manual on the internet if this too is a copyright violation. Whose rights are violated in this instance? I'd say my rights are violated if a manufacturer who does not even exist, or even one who refuses to support a machine deliberately holding repair information.

What happened to people "sharing" music? Was ALL OF THAT deemed a copyright violations. Between music sharing legal actions, and now what Google is doing certainly there has to be a gray area? Most high- tech equipment manufacturers refuse to give or sell manuals, even simple user manuals. They do this for one reason; they want you to buy a new one for a higher price. Does a hardware owner not have rights?

I'm going to purse this for a while until I get a definitive answer. Any copyright attorneys out there. No, and not one of those attorneys you see on the news like Fox. I've been to court more times than those morons. It's amazing how little they know, and they each interpret the law in whatever way makes their firm look better to potential clients that might see them on tv. I mean an attorney with real world experience. Hey, any Google attorneys??? You know they will win....

YES! Did you sleep through the whole Napster thing? Google is only posting books that have expired copyrights (they only last so many years).

Between music sharing legal actions, and now

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Anyone else have an opinion? I go by the premise that you can't believe everything you read. Aren't there music sites that allow you to upload music to "your" account and let you share it? I'm not into all the music stuff but seems to me there are still both music and software sites in a gray area. I assume the difference was that as an individual you shared the music (or software). Am I mistaken?

Anyone know the law on exactly how many words, or notes of music constitutes copyright infringement? And what happens when a company goes out of business. Why can't a user's manual be posted on the internet. And what if a company no longer supports an item.

Check out some of the ebay sellers offering user manuals on CD:

The above item is #230155933783 if the link doesn't work. This is only one but he sells test equipment manuals on CD. Not antique equipment. Here is what appears to be his disclaimer:

This CD is created and produced by planet-e-tech from non-copyrighted, public domain, declassified or non-classified US Government documents, and is designed to work under Windows operating system (the .pdf files are also viewable under other platforms, but some automatic features are likely to be disabled).

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I highly recomend that you do some research on copyright infringement. A lot of manufacturers do post manuals for free on the web, Agilent included. If the CD is from public domain documents that means that you too can go out and get the stuff for free yourself so why buy his CD?

As far as music and software, just because you can copy things doesn't make it legal to copy things. The record companies went after several students in this area for doing exactly what you are describing. It proliferates because it is easy to get away with. The chances of you getting caught are low but you are on a newsgroup talking about doing something that can potentially be illegal. You might want to check things out before you get yourself in trouble.

P. Danek

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Good point, many companies post their manual. These must be what some are selling on ebay. They put 5 or 10 on a cd and sell for 5 bucks or whatever. I wonder however if the simple act of the manufacturer posting on their site a manual constitutes "public domain"?

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As long as there isn't a "copyright xxxx" on the inside cover somewhere then it is fair game.

P. Danek

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