Fiber Optics High attenuation with multimode fibers

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High attenuation with multimode fibers Dennis 04-10-08
Posted by Dennis on April 10, 2008, 1:24 pm
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Hello,

I have a problem with multimode fibers. The attenuation of the fibers
is about 1.5 db/km @ 1300nm and about 3.2 db/km @ 850 nm.
I haven't had such a problem before. Normally, the attenuation of the
fibers is less then 0.6 dB/km @ 1300nm and less then 2.4 dB/km @ 850
nm.
It's no problem with hydrogen. I've checked it.
On my OTDR are no events displayed. The curve is normal.
In my opinion, it looks for micro- or macrobending. Does anyone has
experience with this topic?
Is it possible to measure it or to make it "visible".

BTW, there are 4 fibers in a metallic tube with a diameter of 1.42 mm.

Greeting,

Dennis


Posted by Walter Gryder on April 10, 2008, 11:06 pm
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Dennis wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a problem with multimode fibers. The attenuation of the fibers
> is about 1.5 db/km @ 1300nm and about 3.2 db/km @ 850 nm.
> I haven't had such a problem before. Normally, the attenuation of the
> fibers is less then 0.6 dB/km @ 1300nm and less then 2.4 dB/km @ 850
> nm.
> It's no problem with hydrogen. I've checked it.
> On my OTDR are no events displayed. The curve is normal.
> In my opinion, it looks for micro- or macrobending. Does anyone has
> experience with this topic?
> Is it possible to measure it or to make it "visible".
>
> BTW, there are 4 fibers in a metallic tube with a diameter of 1.42 mm.
>
> Greeting,
>
> Dennis
>
What is the diameter of the fiber core? Could it be that you're
measuring a fiber with a larger core diameter than you typically
encounter? A larger fiber core region (62.5 microns rather than 50
microns, for example) would display higher attenuation characteristics.

Posted by Dennis on April 11, 2008, 4:41 am
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> Dennis wrote:
> > Hello,
>
> > I have a problem with multimode fibers. The attenuation of the fibers
> > is about 1.5 db/km @ 1300nm and about 3.2 db/km @ 850 nm.
> > I haven't had such a problem before. Normally, the attenuation of the
> > fibers is less then 0.6 dB/km @ 1300nm and less then 2.4 dB/km @ 850
> > nm.
> > It's no problem with hydrogen. I've checked it.
> > On my OTDR are no events displayed. The curve is normal.
> > In my opinion, it looks for micro- or macrobending. Does anyone has
> > experience with this topic?
> > Is it possible to measure it or to make it "visible".
>
> > BTW, there are 4 fibers in a metallic tube with a diameter of 1.42 mm.
>
> > Greeting,
>
> > Dennis
>
> What is the diameter of the fiber core? =A0Could it be that you're
> measuring a fiber with a larger core diameter than you typically
> encounter? =A0A larger fiber core region (62.5 microns rather than 50
> microns, for example) would display higher attenuation characteristics.- Z=
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It is a fiber with 50 =B5m core!

Posted by Arnie Berkers on April 11, 2008, 6:27 am
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> Hello,
>
> I have a problem with multimode fibers. The attenuation of the fibers
> is about 1.5 db/km @ 1300nm and about 3.2 db/km @ 850 nm.
> I haven't had such a problem before. Normally, the attenuation of the
> fibers is less then 0.6 dB/km @ 1300nm and less then 2.4 dB/km @ 850
> nm.
> It's no problem with hydrogen. I've checked it.
> On my OTDR are no events displayed. The curve is normal.
> In my opinion, it looks for micro- or macrobending. Does anyone has
> experience with this topic?
> Is it possible to measure it or to make it "visible".
>
> BTW, there are 4 fibers in a metallic tube with a diameter of 1.42 mm.
>
> Greeting,
>
> Dennis

The excess length of the fibres in the metallic tube could be too
high. This would result in microbending problems.
To check this you can cur a piece of tube of 5 to 10 meters, measure
it exactly and then measure the exact length of the fibre in the tube.
Normally the fibres should be about 0.1 to 0.4 % longer than the tube.

Arnie

Posted by Dennis on April 14, 2008, 10:47 am
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>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I have a problem with multimode fibers. The attenuation of the fibers
> > is about 1.5 db/km @ 1300nm and about 3.2 db/km @ 850 nm.
> > I haven't had such a problem before. Normally, the attenuation of the
> > fibers is less then 0.6 dB/km @ 1300nm and less then 2.4 dB/km @ 850
> > nm.
> > It's no problem with hydrogen. I've checked it.
> > On my OTDR are no events displayed. The curve is normal.
> > In my opinion, it looks for micro- or macrobending. Does anyone has
> > experience with this topic?
> > Is it possible to measure it or to make it "visible".
>
> > BTW, there are 4 fibers in a metallic tube with a diameter of 1.42 mm.
>
> > Greeting,
>
> > Dennis
>
> The excess length of the fibres in the metallic tube could be too
> high. This would result in microbending problems.
> To check this you can cur a piece of tube of 5 to 10 meters, measure
> it exactly and then measure the exact length of the fibre in the tube.
> Normally the fibres should be about 0.1 to 0.4 % longer than the tube.
>
> Arnie

The supplier send us test certificates of every single tube, where the
excess length is
specified between 0.09% to 0.15%.
I have 2 FIMT laying in the same way with nearly the same excess
length.
But you're right, we have had a problem with the excess length before
and
we have to check the excess length again.

Dennis

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