Ethernet LAN Windows PC As IEEE 802.11 Access Point

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Windows PC As IEEE 802.11 Access Point Le Chaud Lapin 06-25-08
Posted by Le Chaud Lapin on June 25, 2008, 4:43 pm
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Hi All,

The only limitation would be what 802.11 functions the vendor decided
not to support in a device mean to be used as STA-only. [Frankly, if I
were designing an 802.11 module, I would simply integrate all
functions, and disable as necessary, if even that, but that is another
matter.]

I looked around USENET a bit and saw that this question was already
asked at least once, and several people responded by asking, "Why
would you want to do that?" Well, I still want to do it, and I am
certain that it is what I would ultimately want to do, all things
considered. I am not a noob - I do research in computer networking, so
helpful responses will be helpful. :)

[Must be Windows for now, not Linux].

Thanks!

-Le Chaud Lapin-

Posted by glen herrmannsfeldt on June 25, 2008, 10:00 pm
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Le Chaud Lapin wrote:

> The only limitation would be what 802.11 functions the vendor decided
> not to support in a device mean to be used as STA-only. [Frankly, if I
> were designing an 802.11 module, I would simply integrate all
> functions, and disable as necessary, if even that, but that is another
> matter.]

I would say that a Windows PC can't be an access point, but
maybe a PC plus an 802.11 NIC can. In that case, you would
either only have access to that PC, or it would have to act
as a bridge or router. I believe the Internet sharing feature
of windows would allow access through to another network
connection to the internet.

-- glen




Posted by Le Chaud Lapin on June 26, 2008, 12:31 am
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> Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
> > The only limitation would be what 802.11 functions the vendor decided
> > not to support in a device mean to be used as STA-only. [Frankly, if I
> > were designing an 802.11 module, I would simply integrate all
> > functions, and disable as necessary, if even that, but that is another
> > matter.]

Hi Glen,

> I would say that a Windows PC can't be an access point, but
> maybe a PC plus an 802.11 NIC can. =A0

:|

I am currently reading the 802.11 standard:
http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/download/802.11-2007.pdf
Before, I was too cheap to pay IEEE for a copy, so I got my
information from secondary sources, but now it is freely
available. :D It is obvious from the document that those who make
WiFi dongles enjoy feast not tasted by many.

The harwdare vendors have the option of including or omitting certain
functions that would be provided by an AP. Some vendors took the
liberty of simply including every function prescribed in the standard,
as it eliminates multiple version syndrome.

> In that case, you would
> either only have access to that PC, or it would have to act
> as a bridge or router. =A0I believe the Internet sharing feature
> of windows would allow access through to another network
> connection to the internet.

Actually, I am not trying to achieve pass-throught. I intend to set up
a proprietary DHCP-like system inside a PC, and attach a WiFi dongle
to the PC to test it with PDA's, each having their own Wi-Fi
transceiver. I simply have to find a full-featured dongle for the PC,
and a corresponding driver that exposes 802.11 services primitives to
a user-mode API. Microsoft already encourages this scenario using
Windows CE, making a PDA act as the AP:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa450270.aspx

-Le Chaud Lapin-

Posted by Le Chaud Lapin on June 26, 2008, 1:50 am
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> Actually, I am not trying to achieve pass-throught. I intend to set up
> a proprietary DHCP-like system inside a PC, and attach a WiFi dongle
> to the PC to test it with PDA's, each having their own Wi-Fi
> transceiver. =A0I simply have to find a full-featured dongle for the PC,
> and a corresponding driver that exposes 802.11 services primitives to
> a user-mode API. =A0Microsoft already encourages this scenario using
> Windows CE, making a PDA act as the AP:

For all else who are interested, the pseudo-generic name for what I am
looking for is "SoftAP".

Google it, and much information will come forth.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

Posted by Le Chaud Lapin on June 26, 2008, 2:25 am
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>
> > Actually, I am not trying to achieve pass-throught. I intend to set up
> > a proprietary DHCP-like system inside a PC, and attach a WiFi dongle
> > to the PC to test it with PDA's, each having their own Wi-Fi
> > transceiver. =A0I simply have to find a full-featured dongle for the PC=
,
> > and a corresponding driver that exposes 802.11 services primitives to
> > a user-mode API. =A0Microsoft already encourages this scenario using
> > Windows CE, making a PDA act as the AP:
>
> For all else who are interested, the pseudo-generic name for what I am
> looking for is "SoftAP".
>
> Google it, and much information will come forth.

I appears that the complete package is Zyxel G200 series:

http://us.zyxel.com/web/product_family_detail.php?PC1indexflag=3D2004052016=
1256&CategoryGroupNo=3DPDCA2007072

-Le Chaud Lapin-

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