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Suggestion for an ethernet setup? fellow 10-20-04
Posted by fellow on October 20, 2004, 1:05 am
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At the moment, I've got 2 workgroups consisting of 5 computers connected via
CAT5 cable to a hub which is connected to another hub and the other group
via 10m of coax. The other group consists of 4 computers on a single coax.
Within this group, 2 computers connect to the internet via a USB connection
to an external ISDN modem with two ports, another computer connects to the
internet via a 56K modem. At the moment they are backing up data by a
portable PATA HD which means each machine has to be turned off and on . It
all seems a bit messy to me.

Roughly, how would you upgrade this setup and are there specific hubs,
routers that you would recommend?

Thanks for your expertise.
Fellow




Posted by T. Sean Weintz on October 20, 2004, 7:21 pm
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fellow wrote:
> At the moment, I've got 2 workgroups consisting of 5 computers connected via
> CAT5 cable to a hub which is connected to another hub and the other group
> via 10m of coax. The other group consists of 4 computers on a single coax.
> Within this group, 2 computers connect to the internet via a USB connection
> to an external ISDN modem with two ports, another computer connects to the
> internet via a 56K modem. At the moment they are backing up data by a
> portable PATA HD which means each machine has to be turned off and on . It
> all seems a bit messy to me.
>
> Roughly, how would you upgrade this setup and are there specific hubs,
> routers that you would recommend?
>
> Thanks for your expertise.
> Fellow
>
>

get rid of the hubs, and get rid of the coax.
Replace any/all coax only ethernet cards in the computers with 100basetT
or 1000baset ethernet cards.
replace the hubs with a switch. if all the computers can be placed with
100 meters of the switch, just run 1 cat 5 cable from each computer to
the hub - coonect them all directly to the same hub.

If that cannot be done because some of the cables will be more than 100
meteres, then buy 2 hubs that support fiber - connect them together via
fiber and then plug the computers into the hubs.

get rid of the ISDN and dial up internet service. Get a DSL or cable
modem service and a good NAT firwall that does statefull packet inspection.

Get computer with a BIG hartd drive (or better yet, a raid array) and
back up all the computers to it via the ethernet. Or better yet, get a
real server (like HP ml530 with a sdlt tape drive in it perhaps) and
back up to that. You likely want some sort of automated backup software.
Arcserv(aka brightstor)by computer associates is an industry standard
and works well.

brand recommendations-
for network cards, I am partial to intel. Fast and inexpensive.
For switches, you don't need anything fancy or high end (no layer 3
switching, etc) but I do reccomend managed switches - i'd say get 1 or 2
Netgear FSM726s swicthes. Unless you want all 1000baseT - then get
netgear GSM712 swicthes.
for a firewall/nat box, i'd recommend a sonicwall tz170.


Posted by CJ on February 1, 2005, 12:07 am
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> fellow wrote:
>> At the moment, I've got 2 workgroups consisting of 5 computers connected
>> via
>> CAT5 cable to a hub which is connected to another hub and the other group
>> via 10m of coax. The other group consists of 4 computers on a single
>> coax.
>> Within this group, 2 computers connect to the internet via a USB
>> connection
>> to an external ISDN modem with two ports, another computer connects to
>> the
>> internet via a 56K modem. At the moment they are backing up data by a
>> portable PATA HD which means each machine has to be turned off and on .
>> It
>> all seems a bit messy to me.
>>
>> Roughly, how would you upgrade this setup and are there specific hubs,
>> routers that you would recommend?
>>
>> Thanks for your expertise.
>> Fellow
>>
>>
>
> get rid of the hubs, and get rid of the coax.
> Replace any/all coax only ethernet cards in the computers with 100basetT
> or 1000baset ethernet cards.
> replace the hubs with a switch. if all the computers can be placed with
> 100 meters of the switch, just run 1 cat 5 cable from each computer to the
> hub - coonect them all directly to the same hub.
>
> If that cannot be done because some of the cables will be more than 100
> meteres, then buy 2 hubs that support fiber - connect them together via
> fiber and then plug the computers into the hubs.
>
> get rid of the ISDN and dial up internet service. Get a DSL or cable modem
> service and a good NAT firwall that does statefull packet inspection.
>
> Get computer with a BIG hartd drive (or better yet, a raid array) and back
> up all the computers to it via the ethernet. Or better yet, get a real
> server (like HP ml530 with a sdlt tape drive in it perhaps) and back up to
> that. You likely want some sort of automated backup software. Arcserv(aka
> brightstor)by computer associates is an industry standard and works well.
>
> brand recommendations-
> for network cards, I am partial to intel. Fast and inexpensive.
> For switches, you don't need anything fancy or high end (no layer 3
> switching, etc) but I do reccomend managed switches - i'd say get 1 or 2
> Netgear FSM726s swicthes. Unless you want all 1000baseT - then get netgear
> GSM712 swicthes.
> for a firewall/nat box, i'd recommend a sonicwall tz170.

Everything Sean said is right on the money.

If money is an issue, and it sounds like it is if you are still using hubs
and coax, that for the router, try the 3Com 3CR860-95. It lists for about
$160 and gets you stateful packet inspection, VPN capability, and more.

I like the Sonicwall stuff, but it can be pricey and they make you pay more
for so many connections required to the internet, whereas the 3Com does not.




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