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RJ45 splitter for Ethernet - possible ? P.Schuman 03-28-08
Posted by P.Schuman on March 28, 2008, 11:56 am
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happen to run across this thread over on the Ethernet newsgroup -

Some guy found a RJ45 splitter (2-RJ45 jacks to 1-RJ45 jack)
over on ebay (search RJ45 spliiter) that look like the telco 1-line 2-line
adapters,
but yet this guy (and the ebay description) says these "splitters" ....

Features:
a.. Convert a single RJ45 outlet to two RJ45 sockets easily, point for
more conveniently use

b.. Increase the number of RJ45 network connections on an RJ45 outlet

c.. Compact design, feel free to enjoy your internet surfing

d.. Expand one RJ 45 outlet into two 8 wire RJ-45 T adapter, parallel
wiring

e.. Connector: 3 x RJ45 female

f.. 100% Brand New.

It doesn't even seem possible to have more "network connections"
by just splicing more Ethernet wires together vs a dumb hub ????

I could see if you were trying to split out the tip/ring (4/5) or power
(7/8)
but an Ethernet splitter ?????

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Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on March 28, 2008, 12:03 pm
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> happen to run across this thread over on the Ethernet newsgroup -
>
> Some guy found a RJ45 splitter (2-RJ45 jacks to 1-RJ45 jack)
> over on ebay (search RJ45 spliiter) that look like the telco 1-line
> 2-line adapters,
> but yet this guy (and the ebay description) says these "splitters"
> ....
>
> Features:
> a.. Convert a single RJ45 outlet to two RJ45 sockets easily, point
> for
> more conveniently use
>
> b.. Increase the number of RJ45 network connections on an RJ45
> outlet
>
> c.. Compact design, feel free to enjoy your internet surfing
>
> d.. Expand one RJ 45 outlet into two 8 wire RJ-45 T adapter,
> parallel
> wiring
>
> e.. Connector: 3 x RJ45 female
>
> f.. 100% Brand New.
>
> It doesn't even seem possible to have more "network connections"
> by just splicing more Ethernet wires together vs a dumb hub ????
>
> I could see if you were trying to split out the tip/ring (4/5) or
> power (7/8)
> but an Ethernet splitter ?????
>

The advertiser did not say "Ethernet network connections", he said
"network connections". Telephone systems are called "networks", also.

However, his presumption that its compact size will somehow enhance your
internet experience is both stupid AND leads one to believe he thinks you
CAN tee an ethernet connection.

LLoyd

Posted by News Reader on March 28, 2008, 12:09 pm
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I've had splitters like this in my tool box for the past decade, but
have not actually implemented them.

Mine, are male on one side, and two female on the other.

Imagine that you plugged one into a wall jack at the location of a
workstation, and another in the closet where your switch resides.

This would support two Ethernet or FastEthernet devices at the
workstation location (e.g.: host, and network attached printer).

Each device would utilize two of the four pairs within the 8-wire (e.g.:
Cat 5e) cable.

This is however, not an appropriate thing to do from a performance
standpoint, and should not be standard practice.

If you were utilizing GigEthernet, I believe all four pairs are used to
support a single device, and therefore splitting would not be an option.


Best Regards,
News Reader

P.Schuman wrote:
> happen to run across this thread over on the Ethernet newsgroup -
>
> Some guy found a RJ45 splitter (2-RJ45 jacks to 1-RJ45 jack)
> over on ebay (search RJ45 spliiter) that look like the telco 1-line 2-line
> adapters,
> but yet this guy (and the ebay description) says these "splitters" ....
>
> Features:
> a.. Convert a single RJ45 outlet to two RJ45 sockets easily, point for
> more conveniently use
>
> b.. Increase the number of RJ45 network connections on an RJ45 outlet
>
> c.. Compact design, feel free to enjoy your internet surfing
>
> d.. Expand one RJ 45 outlet into two 8 wire RJ-45 T adapter, parallel
> wiring
>
> e.. Connector: 3 x RJ45 female
>
> f.. 100% Brand New.
>
> It doesn't even seem possible to have more "network connections"
> by just splicing more Ethernet wires together vs a dumb hub ????
>
> I could see if you were trying to split out the tip/ring (4/5) or power
> (7/8)
> but an Ethernet splitter ?????
>

Posted by P.Schuman on March 28, 2008, 12:32 pm
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News Reader wrote:
> I've had splitters like this in my tool box for the past decade, but
> have not actually implemented them.

ok - that pretty much answers the rest of your points

> Mine, are male on one side, and two female on the other.
>
> Imagine that you plugged one into a wall jack at the location of a
> workstation, and another in the closet where your switch resides.
>
> This would support two Ethernet or FastEthernet devices at the
> workstation location (e.g.: host, and network attached printer).

really - how ?

> Each device would utilize two of the four pairs within the 8-wire
> (e.g.: Cat 5e) cable.

really - how ?
considering that each Ethernet device normally expects pins 1/2 and 3/6
to be used ?
So, you would have to fabricate a custom cable for each of these
connections at each end
and then plug that cable into your cable-sharing RJ45 splitters..
1/2 = 1/2
3/6 = 3/4

1/2 = 5/6
3/6 = 7/8

> This is however, not an appropriate thing to do from a performance
> standpoint, and should not be standard practice.
>
> If you were utilizing GigEthernet, I believe all four pairs are used
> to support a single device, and therefore splitting would not be an
> option.
>
> Best Regards,
> News Reader
>
> P.Schuman wrote:
>> happen to run across this thread over on the Ethernet newsgroup -
>>
>> Some guy found a RJ45 splitter (2-RJ45 jacks to 1-RJ45 jack)
>> over on ebay (search RJ45 spliiter) that look like the telco 1-line
>> 2-line adapters,
>> but yet this guy (and the ebay description) says these "splitters"
>> .... Features:
>> a.. Convert a single RJ45 outlet to two RJ45 sockets easily, point
>> for more conveniently use
>>
>> b.. Increase the number of RJ45 network connections on an RJ45
>> outlet c.. Compact design, feel free to enjoy your internet surfing
>>
>> d.. Expand one RJ 45 outlet into two 8 wire RJ-45 T adapter,
>> parallel wiring
>>
>> e.. Connector: 3 x RJ45 female
>>
>> f.. 100% Brand New.
>>
>> It doesn't even seem possible to have more "network connections"
>> by just splicing more Ethernet wires together vs a dumb hub ????
>>
>> I could see if you were trying to split out the tip/ring (4/5) or
>> power (7/8)
>> but an Ethernet splitter ?????



Posted by LR on March 28, 2008, 12:44 pm
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P.Schuman wrote:
> News Reader wrote:
>> I've had splitters like this in my tool box for the past decade, but
>> have not actually implemented them.
>
> ok - that pretty much answers the rest of your points
>
>> Mine, are male on one side, and two female on the other.
>>
>> Imagine that you plugged one into a wall jack at the location of a
>> workstation, and another in the closet where your switch resides.
>>
>> This would support two Ethernet or FastEthernet devices at the
>> workstation location (e.g.: host, and network attached printer).
>
> really - how ?
>
>> Each device would utilize two of the four pairs within the 8-wire
>> (e.g.: Cat 5e) cable.
>
> really - how ?
> considering that each Ethernet device normally expects pins 1/2 and 3/6
> to be used ?
> So, you would have to fabricate a custom cable for each of these
> connections at each end
> and then plug that cable into your cable-sharing RJ45 splitters..
> 1/2 = 1/2
> 3/6 = 3/4
>
> 1/2 = 5/6
> 3/6 = 7/8
>

You do not need to fabricate any custom cables, you just use a standard
straight through cable for each connection. The splitters are used in
pairs, one on each end of a single run of cable.
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