Ethernet LAN Crossover function in the standard.

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Crossover function in the standard. Trebor Mushroom 06-23-08
Posted by glen herrmannsfeldt on July 1, 2008, 8:17 am
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Rich Seifert wrote:
(snip, I wrote)

>>and to absolutely positively guarantee that the signal
>>is balanced. Maybe you could do that with a ferrite ring,
>>but then that is somewhat related to a transformer.

> To the extent that you mean "the transformer takes out any common mode
> (e.g., DC offset) in the signal", then you are correct. However, if the
> signal has short-term imbalance (e.g., asymmetrical high/low times), the
> transformer will not correct the problem.

No common mode is what I meant. Some common mode signals will
be due to differences in the two drivers.

Do they also put electrostatic shielding on the transformer to
remove capacitive coupling between the windings?

-- glen


Posted by Rich Seifert on July 1, 2008, 10:29 am
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> Rich Seifert wrote:
> (snip, I wrote)
>
> >>and to absolutely positively guarantee that the signal
> >>is balanced. Maybe you could do that with a ferrite ring,
> >>but then that is somewhat related to a transformer.
>
> > To the extent that you mean "the transformer takes out any common mode
> > (e.g., DC offset) in the signal", then you are correct. However, if the
> > signal has short-term imbalance (e.g., asymmetrical high/low times), the
> > transformer will not correct the problem.
>
> No common mode is what I meant. Some common mode signals will
> be due to differences in the two drivers.
>
> Do they also put electrostatic shielding on the transformer to
> remove capacitive coupling between the windings?
>

Generally not in that type of transformer. The windings are
close-coupled (typically wound as a pair, and sometimes even a twisted
pair); capacitive coupling is not always a detriment in a signal
transformer application.

--
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