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Posted by Tony on March 9, 2006, 11:15 am
Please log in for more thread options Hi everyone, Can some people chime in as to whether or not patch cables are the same as crossover cables? Are they or are they not the same? If you do not already know the answer I would prefer you not respond. Please do not look on Google to get your answer. :) I recently bought three crossover cables from ComputerCableStore.com. When the cables arrived I found they were actually patch cables, not crossover cables. When I e-mailed the customer service person about the problem she insisted that "patch" is just another term for "crossover". In other words, ComputerCableStore.com is claiming there is no difference between patch and crossover cables. I'm not an Ethernet expert but I'm pretty sure (about 99.9%) that crossovers are different from patch. Is it true or is the customer service person from ComputerCableStore.com correct? Thanks. | |||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Stephen Sprunk on March 9, 2006, 12:41 pm
Please log in for more thread options Crossover cables have pins 1&2 swapped with pins 3&6. Patch cables have no swaps. When you look at the plastic connector on each end (pins up), you should be able to tell which you have based on the colors inside. S -- Stephen Sprunk "Stupid people surround themselves with smart CCIE #3723 people. Smart people surround themselves with K5SSS smart people who disagree with them." --Aaron Sorkin *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** | |||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by DLR on March 9, 2006, 5:01 pm
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Stephen Sprunk wrote: >> Hi everyone,
>> >> Can some people chime in as to whether or not patch cables are the same >> as crossover cables? Are they or are they not the same? If you do not >> already know the answer I would prefer you not respond. Please do not >> look on Google to get your answer. :) >> >> I recently bought three crossover cables from ComputerCableStore.com. >> When the cables arrived I found they were actually patch cables, not >> crossover cables. When I e-mailed the customer service person about the >> problem she insisted that "patch" is just another term for "crossover". >> In other words, ComputerCableStore.com is claiming there is no >> difference between patch and crossover cables. >> >> I'm not an Ethernet expert but I'm pretty sure (about 99.9%) that >> crossovers are different from patch. Is it true or is the customer >> service person from ComputerCableStore.com correct? >
I've always thought of cross over cables as a subset of patch cables. A
> Crossover cables have pins 1&2 swapped with pins 3&6. Patch cables have > no swaps. When you look at the plastic connector on each end (pins up), > you should be able to tell which you have based on the colors inside. > patch cable in it's most generic meaning is a cable used to "patch" a circuit between 2 jacks. Within that generic meaning I think of regular vs crossover. And most folks call patch and "regular" the same. But a crossover is a specialized case. Now days most folks don't even realize the need for crossover cables as most hubs, switches, NICs, etc., auto recognize the signals. But to answer your question, a "patch" cable isn't always a crossover cable. The seller is wrong. | |||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Randy R on March 9, 2006, 3:03 pm
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> Hi everyone,
What do you need a crossover cable for?
> > Can some people chime in as to whether or not patch cables are the same > as crossover cables? Are they or are they not the same? If you do not > already know the answer I would prefer you not respond. Please do not > look on Google to get your answer. :) > > I recently bought three crossover cables from ComputerCableStore.com. > When the cables arrived I found they were actually patch cables, not > crossover cables. When I e-mailed the customer service person about the > problem she insisted that "patch" is just another term for "crossover". > In other words, ComputerCableStore.com is claiming there is no > difference between patch and crossover cables. > > I'm not an Ethernet expert but I'm pretty sure (about 99.9%) that > crossovers are different from patch. Is it true or is the customer > service person from ComputerCableStore.com correct? > Crossover cables are usually used for connecting between network equipment, but usually home network stuff autodetect whether or not you are using a crossover cable, or there is a button to push to switch between the 2, usually on port 1. The only time I have seen where you absolutely have to have a crossover cable is between a DSL router and a computer or switch, or for connecting 2 computers without a switch or hub. (I use one for connecting my Xbox to a computer.) Randy R | |||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Mike on March 10, 2006, 7:55 am
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>The only time I have seen where you absolutely have to have a crossover
>cable is between a DSL router and a computer or switch, or for connecting 2 >computers without a switch or hub. (I use one for connecting my Xbox to a >computer.) If you'd like examples, I have a couple of Cisco 11501 content switches operating in chassis redundancy mode where they *must* be connected by means of a crossover cable. Mike. -- Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem | |||||||||||||||||||

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>
> Can some people chime in as to whether or not patch cables are the same
> as crossover cables? Are they or are they not the same? If you do not
> already know the answer I would prefer you not respond. Please do not
> look on Google to get your answer. :)
>
> I recently bought three crossover cables from ComputerCableStore.com.
> When the cables arrived I found they were actually patch cables, not
> crossover cables. When I e-mailed the customer service person about the
> problem she insisted that "patch" is just another term for "crossover".
> In other words, ComputerCableStore.com is claiming there is no
> difference between patch and crossover cables.
>
> I'm not an Ethernet expert but I'm pretty sure (about 99.9%) that
> crossovers are different from patch. Is it true or is the customer
> service person from ComputerCableStore.com correct?