Hobby Electronics Basics timer

Bookmark this page:  YahooMyWeb Yahoo!  Google Google  Windows Live Favorites Windows Live  del.icio.us del.icio.us  digg digg  Add to Netscape Netscape
Subject Author Date
timer Frank 11-27-04
|--> Re: timer John Fields11-26-04
`--> Re: timer CBarn2405011-27-04
Posted by Frank on November 27, 2004, 12:28 am
Please log in for more thread options
Hello,
I have a simple circuit for a time delay. Small problem is that it does not
switch entirely as I want.
With a transistor I fill an elco of 100uF and then switch off that
transistor. The voltage on the elco is used to switch on a second
transistor. As long as the voltage is above about 1V the transistor stays
open. But, between 1 and 1,5V (around that, dunno) the switched current goes
down and the LED on the second transistor fades out. I want the led to
switch off quickly. How could I do that? It should be something like: if
voltage on elco goes below 1,5V switch immediatly to 0V. Any website a could
inspect?
Hope this is clear enough, drawing schemas in text is very tiresome.
Thanks for your ideas.
Frank




Posted by John Fields on November 26, 2004, 7:20 pm
Please log in for more thread options

>Hello,
>I have a simple circuit for a time delay. Small problem is that it does not
>switch entirely as I want.
>With a transistor I fill an elco of 100uF and then switch off that
>transistor. The voltage on the elco is used to switch on a second
>transistor. As long as the voltage is above about 1V the transistor stays
>open. But, between 1 and 1,5V (around that, dunno) the switched current goes
>down and the LED on the second transistor fades out. I want the led to
>switch off quickly. How could I do that? It should be something like: if
>voltage on elco goes below 1,5V switch immediatly to 0V. Any website a could
>inspect?
>Hope this is clear enough, drawing schemas in text is very tiresome.
>Thanks for your ideas.

---
It's also tiresome trying to figure out what you mean. For example,
you don't say whether the output of the electrolytic is supposed to
supply the operating current for the LED or whether you're only using
it for timing. Then you say that the LED stays on with 1V on the cap,
but that it starts to dim when the voltage on the cap is between 1 and
1.5V, which doesn't seem to make much sense. Since you're the one
asking questions it seems to me that you're the one who should be
putting forth the effort to at least make yourself understood for the
convenience of those whom you are asking for help.

--
John Fields


Posted by Jamie on November 26, 2004, 10:03 pm
Please log in for more thread options
Look at Schmit triggers and voltage comparators.
you need a circuit that can switch on at a higher
point than what it takes to switch off.
you can also acheive this by putting a bias
feed back transistor to help drive the base
as soon as current starts to conduct.
there are lots of options but i would look
into the use of a simply Op-amp.
with that you can simply use a loop back
resistor to the + input that would counter
act the fixed voltage point.
look up voltage comparator's




Frank wrote:

> Hello,
> I have a simple circuit for a time delay. Small problem is that it does not
> switch entirely as I want.
> With a transistor I fill an elco of 100uF and then switch off that
> transistor. The voltage on the elco is used to switch on a second
> transistor. As long as the voltage is above about 1V the transistor stays
> open. But, between 1 and 1,5V (around that, dunno) the switched current goes
> down and the LED on the second transistor fades out. I want the led to
> switch off quickly. How could I do that? It should be something like: if
> voltage on elco goes below 1,5V switch immediatly to 0V. Any website a could
> inspect?
> Hope this is clear enough, drawing schemas in text is very tiresome.
> Thanks for your ideas.
> Frank
>
>



Posted by Frank on November 27, 2004, 3:28 pm
Please log in for more thread options
Thanks, that sounds like what I need. I'll look into it.
Frank
> Look at Schmit triggers and voltage comparators.
> you need a circuit that can switch on at a higher
> point than what it takes to switch off.
> you can also acheive this by putting a bias
> feed back transistor to help drive the base
> as soon as current starts to conduct.
> there are lots of options but i would look
> into the use of a simply Op-amp.
> with that you can simply use a loop back
> resistor to the + input that would counter
> act the fixed voltage point.
> look up voltage comparator's
>
>
>
>
> Frank wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I have a simple circuit for a time delay. Small problem is that it does
not
> > switch entirely as I want.
> > With a transistor I fill an elco of 100uF and then switch off that
> > transistor. The voltage on the elco is used to switch on a second
> > transistor. As long as the voltage is above about 1V the transistor
stays
> > open. But, between 1 and 1,5V (around that, dunno) the switched current
goes
> > down and the LED on the second transistor fades out. I want the led to
> > switch off quickly. How could I do that? It should be something like: if
> > voltage on elco goes below 1,5V switch immediatly to 0V. Any website a
could
> > inspect?
> > Hope this is clear enough, drawing schemas in text is very tiresome.
> > Thanks for your ideas.
> > Frank
> >
> >
>




Posted by CBarn24050 on November 27, 2004, 4:45 am
Please log in for more thread options
>Subject: timer
>From: "Frank" frank@frank.com
>Date: 26/11/2004 20:28 GMT Standard Time
>
>Hello,
>I have a simple circuit for a time delay. Small problem is that it does not
>switch entirely as I want.

>Hope this is clear enough, drawing schemas in text is very tiresome.
>Thanks for your ideas.
>Frank
>

Learn to post your circuits in spice format, it's a whole lot quicker and can
be read on any text program.


Similar ThreadsPosted
AC adjustable timer, motion sensor timer March 31, 2007, 6:34 pm
The difference between using one 555 timer and a 556 timer for PWM control August 14, 2006, 11:41 pm
555 timer September 22, 2004, 11:24 pm
timer November 27, 2004, 12:28 am
555 Timer May 30, 2005, 9:32 pm
555 timer help June 17, 2005, 12:38 pm
555 timer June 29, 2006, 8:55 pm
555 timer August 15, 2006, 3:01 am
556 Timer March 9, 2007, 10:06 pm
555/556 TIMER March 11, 2007, 3:51 pm
555 timer help December 2, 2007, 9:57 pm
555 timer cookbook August 17, 2004, 5:57 pm
Timer chips? November 6, 2004, 3:04 am
555 timer circuit December 29, 2004, 6:22 am
A timer question July 8, 2005, 4:42 pm