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Posted by John Jones on August 21, 2008, 2:21 pm
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Immortalist wrote:
> A central concept in science and the scientific method is that all
> evidence must be empirical, or empirically based, that is, dependent
> on evidence or consequences that are observable by the senses.
> Empirical data are data that are produced by experiment or
> observation.
>
> "Empirical" as an adjective or adverb is used in conjunction with both
> the natural and social sciences, and refers to the use of working
> hypotheses that are testable using observation or experiment. In this
> sense of the word, scientific statements are subject to and derived
> from our experiences or observations.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical
>
> 1. Suppose, that there are basic empirical beliefs, that is, emperical
> beliefs (a) which are epistemically justified, and (b) whose
> justification does not depend on that of any further emperical
> beliefs.
>
> 2. For a belief to be episemically justified requires that there be a
> reason why it is likely to be true.
>
> 3. A belief is justified for a person only if he is in cognitive
> possession of such a reason.
>
> 4. A person is in cognitive possession of such a reason only if he
> believes with justification the premises from which it follows that
> the belief is likely to be true.
>
> 5. The premises of such a justifying argument must include at least
> one empirical premise.
>
> 6. So, the justification of a supposed basic empirical belief depends
> on the justification of at least one other empirical belief,
> contradicting 1.
>
> 7. So, there can be no basic empirical beliefs.
>
> This seems to eliminate the possibility of emperical justification of
> any and all emperical beliefs. But it can lead to this untruthfullness
> of human beliefs in three ways which deal with the apparent "regress"
> of one belief depending upon another which depends upon another and so
> on:
>
> If the regress of emperical justification does not terminate in basic
> emperical beliefs, then it must either:
>
> (1) terminate in unjustified beleifs
>
> (2) go on infinitely (without circularity)
>
> (3) circle back upon itself in some way.
>
> If there is no way to justify emperical beliefs apart from an appeal
> to other justified emperical beliefs, and if an infinite sequence of
> distinct justified beliefs is ruled out, then the presumably finite
> system of justified emperical beliefs can only be justified from
> within, by birtue of the relations of its component beliefs to each
> other. Coherence theory is of the variey (3) seemingly circular if
> veiwed in an linear fasion, merely indicated by whatever
> "property" (or complex of properties) is requisite for the
> justification of such a system of beliefs. Degrees of justification
> emerge out of the relations of groups of beliefs.
>
> http://www.bu.edu/wcp/Papers/TKno/TKnoHowa.htm

woof

Posted by John Jones on August 21, 2008, 2:31 pm
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John Jones wrote:
> Immortalist wrote:
>> A central concept in science and the scientific method is that all
>> evidence must be empirical, or empirically based, that is, dependent
>> on evidence or consequences that are observable by the senses.
>> Empirical data are data that are produced by experiment or
>> observation.
>>
>> "Empirical" as an adjective or adverb is used in conjunction with both
>> the natural and social sciences, and refers to the use of working
>> hypotheses that are testable using observation or experiment. In this
>> sense of the word, scientific statements are subject to and derived
>> from our experiences or observations.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical
>>
>> 1. Suppose, that there are basic empirical beliefs, that is, emperical
>> beliefs (a) which are epistemically justified, and (b) whose
>> justification does not depend on that of any further emperical
>> beliefs.
>>
>> 2. For a belief to be episemically justified requires that there be a
>> reason why it is likely to be true.
>>
>> 3. A belief is justified for a person only if he is in cognitive
>> possession of such a reason.
>>
>> 4. A person is in cognitive possession of such a reason only if he
>> believes with justification the premises from which it follows that
>> the belief is likely to be true.
>>
>> 5. The premises of such a justifying argument must include at least
>> one empirical premise.
>>
>> 6. So, the justification of a supposed basic empirical belief depends
>> on the justification of at least one other empirical belief,
>> contradicting 1.
>>
>> 7. So, there can be no basic empirical beliefs.
>>
>> This seems to eliminate the possibility of emperical justification of
>> any and all emperical beliefs. But it can lead to this untruthfullness
>> of human beliefs in three ways which deal with the apparent "regress"
>> of one belief depending upon another which depends upon another and so
>> on:
>>
>> If the regress of emperical justification does not terminate in basic
>> emperical beliefs, then it must either:
>>
>> (1) terminate in unjustified beleifs
>>
>> (2) go on infinitely (without circularity)
>>
>> (3) circle back upon itself in some way.
>>
>> If there is no way to justify emperical beliefs apart from an appeal
>> to other justified emperical beliefs, and if an infinite sequence of
>> distinct justified beliefs is ruled out, then the presumably finite
>> system of justified emperical beliefs can only be justified from
>> within, by birtue of the relations of its component beliefs to each
>> other. Coherence theory is of the variey (3) seemingly circular if
>> veiwed in an linear fasion, merely indicated by whatever
>> "property" (or complex of properties) is requisite for the
>> justification of such a system of beliefs. Degrees of justification
>> emerge out of the relations of groups of beliefs.
>>
>> http://www.bu.edu/wcp/Papers/TKno/TKnoHowa.htm
>
> woof

doublewoof

Posted by Immortalist on August 23, 2008, 2:51 am
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> >>http://www.bu.edu/wcp/Papers/TKno/TKnoHowa.htm
>
> > woof
>
> doublewoof

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