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Re: A portable GPS should use standard mini-USB power (but which ones do)? sarah bennett 05-30-07
Posted by sarah bennett on May 30, 2007, 12:19 pm
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 11:52:52 -0400, Dana wrote:

> The only place that I know of is on page 31, under "Loading Files." It
> mentions "Connect the mini-usb connector to the side of the Nuvi."
> But I agree, this is not the place to mention it, as it's hard to find.
> It should be on the main "Technical Specifications" page, but it is not.

Hi there Dana,

I see we need to separate USB DATA from USB POWER.

All GPS Owners Manuals & all the reviews I found seem to be clear on USB
data transfer, and some seem to be somewhat clear on USB charging, but none
seem to be clear on USB operation!

I suggest future modern portable electronics reviewers ask basic questions:
a. Does the portable unit CHARGE using standard (5v/500ma) mini-USB?
b. Does the portable unit OPERATE using standard mini-USB?
c. Does the portable unit transfer DATA using standard mini-USB?

We'd all benefit from the answers. There is no downside to having this
critical information for all portable electronic devices in the future.

My goal is a single AC + DC + PC suppy & cable for my cellphone, mp3
player, earbud, camera, and handheld GPS! I won't buy anything that's not
standard USB for charging, operation, and data!

sarah

Posted by Dale DePriest on May 30, 2007, 2:13 pm
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sarah bennett wrote:


> My goal is a single AC + DC + PC suppy & cable for my cellphone, mp3
> player, earbud, camera, and handheld GPS! I won't buy anything that's not
> standard USB for charging, operation, and data!
>
> sarah

Sarah, It seems you will not buy anything needing more than 500 mA which
includes a lot of devices including just about any of the devices with
backlighted color screens and hard drivers. Someday perhaps power
requirements will be lower but for now you will only be able to buy very
simple units.

Dale
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Posted by sarah bennett on May 31, 2007, 12:05 am
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 11:13:43 -0700, Dale DePriest wrote:

> Sarah, It seems you will not buy anything needing more than 500 mA

Hi there Dale,

I understand what you're saying. But let's remember our Blackberry
"mini-usb" charger outputs 750ma c.c. so I think the "practical" upper
limit at least 50% higher than the "official" USB 2.0 spec already.

I've had no problems charging my blackberry from the PC, from the AC, or
from the DC adapters.

Still, don't you think these three yes/no questions are of use to users in
a GPS review?

a. Does the GPS CHARGE via mini-USB connector?
b. Does the GPS OPERATE off the mini-USB power?
c. Does the GPS transfer DATA through the mini-USB port?

susan

Posted by Dale DePriest on May 31, 2007, 10:37 am
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sarah bennett wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2007 11:13:43 -0700, Dale DePriest wrote:
>
>> Sarah, It seems you will not buy anything needing more than 500 mA
>
> Hi there Dale,
>
> I understand what you're saying. But let's remember our Blackberry
> "mini-usb" charger outputs 750ma c.c. so I think the "practical" upper
> limit at least 50% higher than the "official" USB 2.0 spec already.
>
> I've had no problems charging my blackberry from the PC, from the AC, or
> from the DC adapters.
>
> Still, don't you think these three yes/no questions are of use to users in
> a GPS review?
>
> a. Does the GPS CHARGE via mini-USB connector?
> b. Does the GPS OPERATE off the mini-USB power?
> c. Does the GPS transfer DATA through the mini-USB port?
>
> susan

The questions are ok, but may not be as valuable as you think. For
example a GPS might charge via the USB connector when hooked to a pc and
still not charge when hooked to a separate 12 Volt adapter. (This is the
case for iPods for example) It may also charge so slowly that it is not
useful or charge but only when the unit is off.

Dale

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Posted by Lionel on May 31, 2007, 1:08 am
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 09:19:05 -0700, sarah bennett

>On Wed, 30 May 2007 11:52:52 -0400, Dana wrote:
>
>> The only place that I know of is on page 31, under "Loading Files." It
>> mentions "Connect the mini-usb connector to the side of the Nuvi."
>> But I agree, this is not the place to mention it, as it's hard to find.
>> It should be on the main "Technical Specifications" page, but it is not.
>
>Hi there Dana,
>
>I see we need to separate USB DATA from USB POWER.
>
>All GPS Owners Manuals & all the reviews I found seem to be clear on USB
>data transfer, and some seem to be somewhat clear on USB charging, but none
>seem to be clear on USB operation!
>
>I suggest future modern portable electronics reviewers ask basic questions:
>a. Does the portable unit CHARGE using standard (5v/500ma) mini-USB?
>b. Does the portable unit OPERATE using standard mini-USB?
>c. Does the portable unit transfer DATA using standard mini-USB?
>
>We'd all benefit from the answers. There is no downside to having this
>critical information for all portable electronic devices in the future.

Not for the users, certainly.

>My goal is a single AC + DC + PC suppy & cable for my cellphone, mp3
>player, earbud, camera, and handheld GPS! I won't buy anything that's not
>standard USB for charging, operation, and data!

Hm. Sounds like the perfect solution would be a powered hub, modified
with a switch for each socket that you could use to switch off the
data lines & the 5V current limiter.

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