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Phone problems after thunderstorm Mike S. 09-01-08
Posted by Mike S. on September 1, 2008, 5:30 am
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I am trying to help my grandmother with a phone problem. I'm not
entirely sure what's going on (she's very confusing) but some
(possibly all) of the Caller ID displays on her home telephones are
garbled to the point where they're unreadable. I think it happened
after a thunderstorm where the electric went out. The phones work fine
except for the displays. It's on both the cordless and corded phones.

Is it at all possible that the storm would damage only the displays on
the phones but yet the phones still work fine otherwise? I can't be
sure, but I think even the cordless extension sets that aren't even
connected to the phone line have the garbled display. That seems
really strange to me.

I think the displays on at least five phones are damaged.

Posted by Phil Allison on September 1, 2008, 8:38 am
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"Mike S."
>
>I am trying to help my grandmother with a phone problem. I'm not
> entirely sure what's going on (she's very confusing) but some
> (possibly all) of the Caller ID displays on her home telephones are
> garbled to the point where they're unreadable.


** You need to go to her house and get the real facts.


> I think it happened
> after a thunderstorm where the electric went out. The phones work fine
> except for the displays. It's on both the cordless and corded phones.
>
> Is it at all possible that the storm would damage only the displays on
> the phones but yet the phones still work fine otherwise? I can't be
> sure, but I think even the cordless extension sets that aren't even
> connected to the phone line have the garbled display. That seems
> really strange to me.
>
> I think the displays on at least five phones are damaged.


** More likely storm water has got into the wiring ( anywhere from the
exchange to the house) and is causing signal loss & noise on the line -
that will screw up caller ID.




..... Phil



Posted by Chris on September 1, 2008, 11:23 am
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> I am trying to help my grandmother with a phone problem. I'm not
> entirely sure what's going on (she's very confusing) but some
> (possibly all) of the Caller ID displays on her home telephones are
> garbled to the point where they're unreadable. I think it happened
> after a thunderstorm where the electric went out. The phones work fine
> except for the displays. It's on both the cordless and corded phones.
>
> Is it at all possible that the storm would damage only the displays on
> the phones but yet the phones still work fine otherwise? I can't be
> sure, but I think even the cordless extension sets that aren't even
> connected to the phone line have the garbled display. That seems
> really strange to me.
>
> I think the displays on at least five phones are damaged.

Try borrowing a known good caller ID phone and take it over to
granny's house. I'd guess it doesn't work, either. Sounds like
something's wrong with her wiring.

But either way, you'll definitely get an answer by trying a known good
phone in the house circuit.

Good luck
Chris

Posted by Jamie on September 1, 2008, 1:15 pm
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Mike S. wrote:
> I am trying to help my grandmother with a phone problem. I'm not
> entirely sure what's going on (she's very confusing) but some
> (possibly all) of the Caller ID displays on her home telephones are
> garbled to the point where they're unreadable. I think it happened
> after a thunderstorm where the electric went out. The phones work fine
> except for the displays. It's on both the cordless and corded phones.
>
> Is it at all possible that the storm would damage only the displays on
> the phones but yet the phones still work fine otherwise? I can't be
> sure, but I think even the cordless extension sets that aren't even
> connected to the phone line have the garbled display. That seems
> really strange to me.
>
> I think the displays on at least five phones are damaged.
That sounds more like a phone company service issue.

the CID service sounds like its not getting properly
translated from the service to your lines. Your phone
in effect is picking noise that is screwing up the
decoding or, the encoding of the CID signal is incorrect
which should be a phone company issue in both cases.



http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5"


Posted by Electronworks.co.uk on September 2, 2008, 3:59 am
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what is the audio quality of the phone like?
If it is crackly, then water might have got into the phone line (they
sometimes use airtight pipes to run the cables inside). This will mess up
the caller id signal.

I cannot imagine it is anything to do with the electronics of the caller ID
chip. The front end of all phone circuits is quite high voltage with
transient suppression on it, so should be fairly robust.

As Chris suggested, either take a good phone to her house, or bring her
phone to your house...

Rgds

Bill
Electronworks.co.uk - electronic kits for education and fun


> Mike S. wrote:
>> I am trying to help my grandmother with a phone problem. I'm not
>> entirely sure what's going on (she's very confusing) but some
>> (possibly all) of the Caller ID displays on her home telephones are
>> garbled to the point where they're unreadable. I think it happened
>> after a thunderstorm where the electric went out. The phones work fine
>> except for the displays. It's on both the cordless and corded phones.
>>
>> Is it at all possible that the storm would damage only the displays on
>> the phones but yet the phones still work fine otherwise? I can't be
>> sure, but I think even the cordless extension sets that aren't even
>> connected to the phone line have the garbled display. That seems
>> really strange to me.
>>
>> I think the displays on at least five phones are damaged.
> That sounds more like a phone company service issue.
>
> the CID service sounds like its not getting properly
> translated from the service to your lines. Your phone
> in effect is picking noise that is screwing up the
> decoding or, the encoding of the CID signal is incorrect
> which should be a phone company issue in both cases.
>
>
>
> http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5"
>



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