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Posted by Bret Cahill on July 21, 2008, 1:39 pm
Please log in for more thread options > >That's certainly possible -- the "trolly tractor" was last summer's
> >idea -- but requires a lot of wire. It's actually cheaper to use a > >battery. > >> It's not as simple
> >> as a locomotive or streetcar, where a single hot wire can bu used, and the > >> return current through the tracks. But I think a system could be devised to > >> provide electricity to a tractor by means of a controlled tether. It could > >> definitely be done with a set of tracks that would move the supply line to > >> be in-line with the movement of the tractor, and then have a trolley with a > >> power cord that supplies the tractor. It would involve some engineering, > >> initial investment, and maintenance, but should be about 95% efficient for > >> energy conversion. > >Another option is to eliminate the tractor altogether and drag the
> >plow and other impliments off of a "super pivot," the common "crop > >circle" irrigation structure beefed up for the heavier load. > >The impliments would move inward for a spiral furrow.
> Um, you might reconsider any plans you have to be a farmer.
Using crutch words like "you know" or noises like "um" is bad enough in speech. It text it is even worse, a sure sign of a nobody with nothing to say. Bret Cahill | |||||||||||||
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Posted by John Larkin on July 21, 2008, 3:31 pm
Please log in for more thread options >> >> I think this could also be accomplished by stringing a grid of wires over
>> >> the field, and using a trolley that rides on the wires. >
>> >That's certainly possible -- the "trolly tractor" was last summer's
>> >idea -- but requires a lot of wire. It's actually cheaper to use a >> >battery. >
>> >> It's not as simple
>> >> as a locomotive or streetcar, where a single hot wire can bu used, and the >> >> return current through the tracks. But I think a system could be devised to >> >> provide electricity to a tractor by means of a controlled tether. It could >> >> definitely be done with a set of tracks that would move the supply line to >> >> be in-line with the movement of the tractor, and then have a trolley with a >> >> power cord that supplies the tractor. It would involve some engineering, >> >> initial investment, and maintenance, but should be about 95% efficient for >> >> energy conversion. >
>> >Another option is to eliminate the tractor altogether and drag the
>> >plow and other impliments off of a "super pivot," the common "crop >> >circle" irrigation structure beefed up for the heavier load. >
>> >The impliments would move inward for a spiral furrow.
>
>> Um, you might reconsider any plans you have to be a farmer.
>
>Using crutch words like "you know" or noises like "um" is bad enough >in speech. It text it is even worse, a sure sign of a nobody with >nothing to say. > > >Bret Cahill > Being that this is an electronics group, you might, umm, consider saying something about electronics. John | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Bret Cahill on July 21, 2008, 3:50 pm
Please log in for more thread options > >> >> I think this could also be accomplished by stringing a grid of wire=
s over
> >> >> the field, and using a trolley that rides on the wires.
> >> >That's certainly possible -- the "trolly tractor" was last summer's
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> >> >> It's not as simple
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> >> >> provide electricity to a tractor by means of a controlled tether. I=
t could
> >> >> definitely be done with a set of tracks that would move the supply =
line to
> >> >> be in-line with the movement of the tractor, and then have a trolle=
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> >> >> power cord that supplies the tractor. It would involve some enginee=
ring,
> >> >> initial investment, and maintenance, but should be about 95% effici=
ent for
> >> >> energy conversion.
> >> >Another option is to eliminate the tractor altogether and drag the
> >> >plow and other impliments off of a "super pivot," the common "crop > >> >circle" irrigation structure beefed up for the heavier load. > >> >The impliments would move inward for a spiral furrow.
> >> Um, you might reconsider any plans you have to be a farmer.
> >Using crutch words like "you know" or noises like "um" is bad enough
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> >in speech. =EF=BF=BDIt text it is even worse, a sure sign of a nobody wi= > >nothing to say.
> Being that this is an electronics group, you might, umm, consider
> saying something about electronics. Now that you've twisted my arm (ouch! yawzaa! puleese don't fling me into dat briar patch) using 1/6th the power drawn by an electric locomotive, a 400 hp articulated battery electric tractor could charge up in two minutes or less per pass on a quarter square thereby saving over $100/hour-- soon to be $300/hour -- in diesel. And _no_ I will _not_ let you off the hook for saying furrows could not be circular or spiral. There was no excuse for saying something that dumb. Bret Cahill | |||||||||||||
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Posted by John Larkin on July 21, 2008, 4:39 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:50:24 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
>> >> >> I think this could also be accomplished by stringing a grid of wires
over
>> >> >> the field, and using a trolley that rides on the wires.
>
>> >> >That's certainly possible -- the "trolly tractor" was last summer's
>> >> >idea -- ?but requires a lot of wire. ?It's actually cheaper to use a >> >> >battery. >
>> >> >> It's not as simple
the
>> >> >> as a locomotive or streetcar, where a single hot wire can bu used, and >> >> >> return current through the tracks. But I think a system could be
devised to
>> >> >> provide electricity to a tractor by means of a controlled tether. It
could
>> >> >> definitely be done with a set of tracks that would move the supply line
to
>> >> >> be in-line with the movement of the tractor, and then have a trolley
with a
>> >> >> power cord that supplies the tractor. It would involve some engineering,
for
>> >> >> initial investment, and maintenance, but should be about 95% efficient >> >> >> energy conversion.
>
>> >> >Another option is to eliminate the tractor altogether and drag the
>> >> >plow and other impliments off of a "super pivot," the common "crop >> >> >circle" irrigation structure beefed up for the heavier load. >
>> >> >The impliments would move inward for a spiral furrow.
>
>> >> Um, you might reconsider any plans you have to be a farmer.
>
>> >Using crutch words like "you know" or noises like "um" is bad enough
>> >in speech. ?It text it is even worse, a sure sign of a nobody with >> >nothing to say. >
>> Being that this is an electronics group, you might, umm, consider
>> saying something about electronics. >
>Now that you've twisted my arm (ouch! yawzaa! puleese don't fling me >into dat briar patch) using 1/6th the power drawn by an electric >locomotive, a 400 hp articulated battery electric tractor could charge >up in two minutes or less per pass on a quarter square thereby saving >over $100/hour-- soon to be $300/hour -- in diesel. > >And _no_ I will _not_ let you off the hook for saying furrows could >not be circular or spiral. > >There was no excuse for saying something that dumb. > > Cite? John | |||||||||||||
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Posted by John Fields on July 21, 2008, 5:17 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:50:24 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
>> >> >> I think this could also be accomplished by stringing a grid of wires
over
>> >> >> the field, and using a trolley that rides on the wires.
>
>> >> >That's certainly possible -- the "trolly tractor" was last summer's
>> >> >idea -- ?but requires a lot of wire. ?It's actually cheaper to use a >> >> >battery. >
>> >> >> It's not as simple
the
>> >> >> as a locomotive or streetcar, where a single hot wire can bu used, and >> >> >> return current through the tracks. But I think a system could be
devised to
>> >> >> provide electricity to a tractor by means of a controlled tether. It
could
>> >> >> definitely be done with a set of tracks that would move the supply line
to
>> >> >> be in-line with the movement of the tractor, and then have a trolley
with a
>> >> >> power cord that supplies the tractor. It would involve some engineering,
for
>> >> >> initial investment, and maintenance, but should be about 95% efficient >> >> >> energy conversion.
>
>> >> >Another option is to eliminate the tractor altogether and drag the
>> >> >plow and other impliments off of a "super pivot," the common "crop >> >> >circle" irrigation structure beefed up for the heavier load. >
>> >> >The impliments would move inward for a spiral furrow.
>
>> >> Um, you might reconsider any plans you have to be a farmer.
>
>> >Using crutch words like "you know" or noises like "um" is bad enough
>> >in speech. ?It text it is even worse, a sure sign of a nobody with >> >nothing to say. >
>> Being that this is an electronics group, you might, umm, consider
>> saying something about electronics. >
>Now that you've twisted my arm (ouch! yawzaa! puleese don't fling me >into dat briar patch) using 1/6th the power drawn by an electric >locomotive, a 400 hp articulated battery electric tractor could charge >up in two minutes or less per pass on a quarter square thereby saving >over $100/hour-- soon to be $300/hour -- in diesel. > >And _no_ I will _not_ let you off the hook for saying furrows could >not be circular or spiral. > >There was no excuse for saying something that dumb. --- The whole spiral plowing idea is pretty stupid for large agricultural operations, but what's even stupider is having the plow spiral inwards. JF | |||||||||||||
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