Hobby Electronics Basics OT:Incandescent "soft white" bulb coating?

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OT:Incandescent "soft white" bulb coating? Bob Masta 01-21-05
Posted by Bob Masta on January 21, 2005, 5:17 pm
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Not exactly an electronics question, but I know some
lighting gurus hang out here. (Google hasn't been any
help so far.)

What is the stuff used as the coating on typical
incandescent "soft white" bulbs? I gather that
the non-soft-white are simply acid etched on the
inside of the envelope, but the soft white have
a separate powder applied somehow. What
is this stuff chemically? What makes it stick?
(It seems pretty fragile if you touch it on a
broken envelope piece.)

Thanks!


Bob Masta
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Posted by Sylvan Butler on January 21, 2005, 6:19 pm
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> What is the stuff used as the coating on typical
> incandescent "soft white" bulbs? I gather that
> the non-soft-white are simply acid etched on the
> inside of the envelope, but the soft white have
> a separate powder applied somehow. What
> is this stuff chemically? What makes it stick?
> (It seems pretty fragile if you touch it on a
> broken envelope piece.)

Doesn't stuck much... Even the broken pieces of filament swirled around
inside the bulb scrape off the powder. Hopefully it is just some talc,
gypsum, ...

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Posted by Dan Ritter on January 21, 2005, 10:36 pm
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Bob Masta wrote:

> Not exactly an electronics question, but I know some
> lighting gurus hang out here. (Google hasn't been any
> help so far.)
>
> What is the stuff used as the coating on typical
> incandescent "soft white" bulbs? I gather that
> the non-soft-white are simply acid etched on the
> inside of the envelope, but the soft white have
> a separate powder applied somehow. What
> is this stuff chemically? What makes it stick?
> (It seems pretty fragile if you touch it on a
> broken envelope piece.)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Bob Masta
> dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom
>
> D A Q A R T A
> Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
> www.daqarta.com
All I know is that at least in flourescant lights they use different
shades of colored phosphors. I would imagine it's the same stuff but I
don't know.


Posted by Jonathan Kirwan on January 22, 2005, 4:58 am
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:17:43 GMT, NoSpam@daqarta.com (Bob Masta) wrote:

>Not exactly an electronics question, but I know some
>lighting gurus hang out here. (Google hasn't been any
>help so far.)
>
>What is the stuff used as the coating on typical
>incandescent "soft white" bulbs? I gather that
>the non-soft-white are simply acid etched on the
>inside of the envelope, but the soft white have
>a separate powder applied somehow. What
>is this stuff chemically? What makes it stick?
>(It seems pretty fragile if you touch it on a
>broken envelope piece.)

The two commonly used finishes inside are etched glass (frosted) and applied
silica powder. As I said, the etched glass is known as 'inside-frosted' or
simply 'frosted' and results in the appearance of a glowing ball of light within
the globe. But silica powder is also used, and called 'soft-white' by most
major manufacturers. Although this cuts output more than etched glass, it makes
the entire bulb glow more evenly.

I hope this helps some.

Jon


Posted by Bob Masta on January 22, 2005, 5:26 pm
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:58:33 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan

>On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:17:43 GMT, NoSpam@daqarta.com (Bob Masta) wrote:
>
>>Not exactly an electronics question, but I know some
>>lighting gurus hang out here. (Google hasn't been any
>>help so far.)
>>
>>What is the stuff used as the coating on typical
>>incandescent "soft white" bulbs? I gather that
>>the non-soft-white are simply acid etched on the
>>inside of the envelope, but the soft white have
>>a separate powder applied somehow. What
>>is this stuff chemically? What makes it stick?
>>(It seems pretty fragile if you touch it on a
>>broken envelope piece.)
>
>The two commonly used finishes inside are etched glass (frosted) and applied
>silica powder. As I said, the etched glass is known as 'inside-frosted' or
>simply 'frosted' and results in the appearance of a glowing ball of light within
>the globe. But silica powder is also used, and called 'soft-white' by most
>major manufacturers. Although this cuts output more than etched glass, it makes
>the entire bulb glow more evenly.
>
>I hope this helps some.
>

Thanks, Jon, this is exactly the sort of info I was
hoping for. Any idea what makes the silica stay on the
inside of the envelope?

Thanks again!


Bob Masta
dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom

D A Q A R T A
Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
www.daqarta.com


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