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MOSFETs and PWM Randy Day 02-24-07
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Posted by Randy Day on February 24, 2007, 1:05 pm
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I've built some TTL motor/relay controllers
out of NPN transistors in a Darlington
configuration, and I'm considering using
mosfets instead.
+V
|_
- )|
^ )| relay
|_)|
|
_R_ |/
TTL in -|___|--|
|>
|
GND
(created by AACircuit v1.28 beta 10/06/04 www.tech-chat.de)

My experience with mosfets is zero. Is an
n-channel mosfet pretty much a drop-in
replacement for an NPN device, aside from
gate/base resistor values? If so, how do I
calculate an appropriate value for R on a
mosfet? I'm looking for full-off/full-on
switching, not voltage regulation.

The Mouser website lists the FDN5630 and
FDC655BN, which seem to have the current
capacity (and low price) I want. Are there
any other things I need to consider when
designing for mosfets, aside from ESD?

TIA

Posted by John Larkin on February 24, 2007, 1:49 pm
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wrote:

>I've built some TTL motor/relay controllers
>out of NPN transistors in a Darlington
>configuration, and I'm considering using
>mosfets instead.
> +V
> |_
> - )|
> ^ )| relay
> |_)|
> |
> _R_ |/
> TTL in -|___|--|
> |>
> |
> GND
>(created by AACircuit v1.28 beta 10/06/04 www.tech-chat.de)
>
>My experience with mosfets is zero. Is an
>n-channel mosfet pretty much a drop-in
>replacement for an NPN device, aside from
>gate/base resistor values? If so, how do I
>calculate an appropriate value for R on a
>mosfet? I'm looking for full-off/full-on
>switching, not voltage regulation.

You don't need a gate resistor at all. Just run your logic level to
the fet's gate. There are some second-order reasons to use a gate
resistor (kill rf oscillations during the slew, slow down the edges,
protect the driver if the fet dies) so 1K, close to the fet, wouldn't
hurt.

>
>The Mouser website lists the FDN5630 and
>FDC655BN, which seem to have the current
>capacity (and low price) I want. Are there
>any other things I need to consider when
>designing for mosfets, aside from ESD?

Make sure your logic high is enough to turn the fet on hard, not
merely "gate threshold" voltage; that's on the datasheets.

Be aware that an open-gate fet could be on or off, so make sure your
driver circuit keeps the gate low when it should. Disconnected cables
can get interesting.

Most fets like this are fairly esd hard, so don't go overboard on
handling. I take no esd precautions when working in my lab, and have
never blown a mosfet. My manufacturing people do all the strap/mat
stuff, and they don't blow fets either!

John


Posted by Randy Day on February 24, 2007, 5:28 pm
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John Larkin wrote:

[snip]

Wow! Lots of really excellent advice from everyone!

> You don't need a gate resistor at all. Just run your logic level to
> the fet's gate. There are some second-order reasons to use a gate
> resistor (kill rf oscillations during the slew, slow down the edges,
> protect the driver if the fet dies) so 1K, close to the fet, wouldn't
> hurt.

I think I'll put the 1k in for driver protection.
For peace of mind, if nothing else. ;)

> Make sure your logic high is enough to turn the fet on hard, not
> merely "gate threshold" voltage; that's on the datasheets.

The FDC655 lists 33 mOhms Rds(on) at 4.5v, which
seems more than adequate. I think I'll go with it.

>
> Be aware that an open-gate fet could be on or off, so make sure your
> driver circuit keeps the gate low when it should. Disconnected cables
> can get interesting.

Posted by maxfoo on February 25, 2007, 3:23 pm
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>John Larkin wrote:
>
>[snip]

>The FDC655 lists 33 mOhms Rds(on) at 4.5v, which
>seems more than adequate. I think I'll go with it.
>

I find it hard to believe that this little super sot-6 package can handle
6.5Amps, Hell I've blown mosfet in soic-8 packages rated a 4amps. too bad
digikey doesn't sell it, I like to try to see where it explodes. ;^D
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/FD/FDC655BN.pdf

Posted by Randy Day on February 25, 2007, 7:34 pm
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maxfoo wrote:
>
>
>>John Larkin wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>
>
>>The FDC655 lists 33 mOhms Rds(on) at 4.5v, which
>>seems more than adequate. I think I'll go with it.
>>
>
>
> I find it hard to believe that this little super sot-6 package can handle
> 6.5Amps, Hell I've blown mosfet in soic-8 packages rated a 4amps. too bad
> digikey doesn't sell it, I like to try to see where it explodes. ;^D
> http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/FD/FDC655BN.pdf

That was my impression too. We'll see if it lives
up to its billing. ;)

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