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Lighting up the inside of a subwoofer Jacob.Block 01-26-07
Posted by on January 26, 2007, 6:38 pm
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Hey everyone,

I am an undergrad in ECE and I am working on building the box for a
double vented 500W subwoofer. I want to light up the inside with some
kind of blue light so that it shines out the side (thick clear
material) and through the two vents. I also want to put orange LEDs
around the outside of the speaker (I go to the university of illinois,
school colors). I want the lights to pulse with the bass of the
subwoofer though. I haven't taken enough courses to design my own
circuits yet, so I have been googling for hours looking for circuits
that involve a mic and a low-pass frequency filter. I have a few
questions that I am hoping someone can give me insight on:

1) Will there be a problem with using a microphone inside the box? I
am wondering if the lights will come on out of phase with the beat and
whether or not it will just always be on because its inside the box.

2) Would it be smarter to tap into the two wires going into the woofer
instead of using a mic? And if so, will the high current be a problem
for such a simple circuit? Would it be more effective to put it in
series or parallel with the woofer? Are there overload concerns with
hooking it up to a 500w amp?

3) Am I going about this all wrong? I am open to advice and to
alternative to what my current thoughts are. I am also unsure of how
to power the circuit if its a seperate one with a mic. I don't know if
tapping off the transformer is such a good idea, seeing as its a 250$
amp.

I appreciate any feedback. Thanks for your time.


Posted by Lord Garth on January 26, 2007, 7:11 pm
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> Hey everyone,
>
> I am an undergrad in ECE and I am working on building the box for a
> double vented 500W subwoofer. I want to light up the inside with some
> kind of blue light so that it shines out the side (thick clear
> material) and through the two vents. I also want to put orange LEDs
> around the outside of the speaker (I go to the university of illinois,
> school colors). I want the lights to pulse with the bass of the
> subwoofer though. I haven't taken enough courses to design my own
> circuits yet, so I have been googling for hours looking for circuits
> that involve a mic and a low-pass frequency filter. I have a few
> questions that I am hoping someone can give me insight on:
>
> 1) Will there be a problem with using a microphone inside the box? I
> am wondering if the lights will come on out of phase with the beat and
> whether or not it will just always be on because its inside the box.
>
> 2) Would it be smarter to tap into the two wires going into the woofer
> instead of using a mic? And if so, will the high current be a problem
> for such a simple circuit? Would it be more effective to put it in
> series or parallel with the woofer? Are there overload concerns with
> hooking it up to a 500w amp?
>
> 3) Am I going about this all wrong? I am open to advice and to
> alternative to what my current thoughts are. I am also unsure of how
> to power the circuit if its a seperate one with a mic. I don't know if
> tapping off the transformer is such a good idea, seeing as its a 250$
> amp.
>
> I appreciate any feedback. Thanks for your time.
>

Repost to alt.binaries.schematic.electronic and I'll send you some info





Posted by jasen on January 27, 2007, 6:33 am
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> Hey everyone,
>
> I am an undergrad in ECE and I am working on building the box for a
> double vented 500W subwoofer. I want to light up the inside with some
> kind of blue light so that it shines out the side (thick clear
> material) and through the two vents. I also want to put orange LEDs
> around the outside of the speaker (I go to the university of illinois,
> school colors). I want the lights to pulse with the bass of the
> subwoofer though. I haven't taken enough courses to design my own
> circuits yet, so I have been googling for hours looking for circuits
> that involve a mic and a low-pass frequency filter. I have a few
> questions that I am hoping someone can give me insight on:

> 1) Will there be a problem with using a microphone inside the box?

you'd need one that rated for very high SPL.

> am wondering if the lights will come on out of phase with the beat and
> whether or not it will just always be on because its inside the box.

???

> 2) Would it be smarter to tap into the two wires going into the woofer
> instead of using a mic? And if so, will the high current be a problem
> for such a simple circuit?
> Would it be more effective to put it in
> series or parallel with the woofer? Are there overload concerns with
> hooking it up to a 500w amp?

parallel (with large resistors in series with your circuits input).
problems most unlikely.

getting in series with the sort of current needed to put 500W into a 8
ohm load is'nt worth the bother,

> 3) Am I going about this all wrong? I am open to advice and to
> alternative to what my current thoughts are. I am also unsure of how
> to power the circuit if its a seperate one with a mic. I don't know if
> tapping off the transformer is such a good idea, seeing as its a 250$
> amp.

google for colour organ.

Bye.
Jasen

Posted by John Larkin on January 27, 2007, 12:22 pm
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On 26 Jan 2007 15:38:50 -0800, Jacob.Block@gmail.com wrote:

>Hey everyone,
>
>I am an undergrad in ECE and I am working on building the box for a
>double vented 500W subwoofer. I want to light up the inside with some
>kind of blue light so that it shines out the side (thick clear
>material) and through the two vents. I also want to put orange LEDs
>around the outside of the speaker (I go to the university of illinois,
>school colors). I want the lights to pulse with the bass of the
>subwoofer though. I haven't taken enough courses to design my own
>circuits yet, so I have been googling for hours looking for circuits
>that involve a mic and a low-pass frequency filter. I have a few
>questions that I am hoping someone can give me insight on:
>
>1) Will there be a problem with using a microphone inside the box? I
>am wondering if the lights will come on out of phase with the beat and
>whether or not it will just always be on because its inside the box.
>
>2) Would it be smarter to tap into the two wires going into the woofer
>instead of using a mic? And if so, will the high current be a problem
>for such a simple circuit? Would it be more effective to put it in
>series or parallel with the woofer? Are there overload concerns with
>hooking it up to a 500w amp?
>
>3) Am I going about this all wrong? I am open to advice and to
>alternative to what my current thoughts are. I am also unsure of how
>to power the circuit if its a seperate one with a mic. I don't know if
>tapping off the transformer is such a good idea, seeing as its a 250$
>amp.
>
>I appreciate any feedback. Thanks for your time.

What is ECE? What year are you in?

John


Posted by ehsjr on January 27, 2007, 1:38 pm
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Jacob.Block@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I am an undergrad in ECE and I am working on building the box for a
> double vented 500W subwoofer. I want to light up the inside with some
> kind of blue light so that it shines out the side (thick clear
> material) and through the two vents. I also want to put orange LEDs
> around the outside of the speaker (I go to the university of illinois,
> school colors). I want the lights to pulse with the bass of the
> subwoofer though. I haven't taken enough courses to design my own
> circuits yet, so I have been googling for hours looking for circuits
> that involve a mic and a low-pass frequency filter. I have a few
> questions that I am hoping someone can give me insight on:
>
> 1) Will there be a problem with using a microphone inside the box? I
> am wondering if the lights will come on out of phase with the beat and
> whether or not it will just always be on because its inside the box.
>
> 2) Would it be smarter to tap into the two wires going into the woofer
> instead of using a mic? And if so, will the high current be a problem
> for such a simple circuit? Would it be more effective to put it in
> series or parallel with the woofer? Are there overload concerns with
> hooking it up to a 500w amp?
>
> 3) Am I going about this all wrong? I am open to advice and to
> alternative to what my current thoughts are. I am also unsure of how
> to power the circuit if its a seperate one with a mic. I don't know if
> tapping off the transformer is such a good idea, seeing as its a 250$
> amp.
>
> I appreciate any feedback. Thanks for your time.
>


Here's an interesting experiment you can try
that may give you what you want with a bjt.

Wind some (10 ?) turns of hookup wire around one
of the wires that connects the subwoofer speaker
to the circutry that drives it to make a pickup
coil. Then do this:

PNP
+ 12 --------------------- ---+
e\ /c |
- |
------ ----- | [1K]
|Pickup|--|~ +|---[1K]---+ |
| | | BR | a| [LED]
| Coil |--|~ -|---+ [D1] |
------ ----- | | |
| [D2] |
| | |
Gnd ----------------+------+----+

If the LED lights at all the levels of
audio that you will use, you're in business.
You can use the output at the collector
to drive the gate of a mosfet, and switch
however many LEDs or circuits you want.

Ed

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