Hobby Electronics Basics LTspice / SwitcherCAD III and Bridge Rectifier question

>I am a novice. And even more of a novice at this spice program.
>
> I am trying to "play" with the program to see how it works etc. So Im taking
> some schematics and replicating them in the spice program to see how it
> works.
> My current sample project requires a 1 Amp 200V Bridge Rectifier.
>
> I cannot see this component in the components list. Am I missing something?

> Am I suppose to use 4 Diodes as a work around or should I move to the next
> step in this program and make a new component?

> >I am a novice. And even more of a novice at this spice program.
> >
> > I am trying to "play" with the program to see how it works etc. So Im

> > some schematics and replicating them in the spice program to see how it
> > works.
> > My current sample project requires a 1 Amp 200V Bridge Rectifier.
> >
> > I cannot see this component in the components list. Am I missing

>
> You have learned, early, the widely known fact
> that the available models (assuming they are any
> good) are a big part of the value of any simulator
> package.
>

> > Am I suppose to use 4 Diodes as a work around or should I move to the

> > step in this program and make a new component?

>
> For playing, if you can find some 1A 200V
> diodes, just hook them up and be happy. Or,
> if you want to play with component creation,
> do that. Library editors can be a real challenge.
>
> Have fun.
>
> --
> --Larry Brasfield
> email: donotspam_larry_brasfield@hotmail.com
> Above views may belong only to me.
>
>

>> >I am a novice. And even more of a novice at this spice program.
>> > I am trying to "play" with the program to see how it works etc. So Im taking
>> > some schematics and replicating them in the spice program to see how it
>> > works.
>> > My current sample project requires a 1 Amp 200V Bridge Rectifier.
>> >
>> > I cannot see this component in the components list. Am I missing something?

>>
>> You have learned, early, the widely known fact
>> that the available models (assuming they are any
>> good) are a big part of the value of any simulator
>> package.
>>

>> > Am I suppose to use 4 Diodes as a work around or should I move to the
>> > next step in this program and make a new component?

>>
>> For playing, if you can find some 1A 200V
>> diodes, just hook them up and be happy. Or,
>> if you want to play with component creation,
>> do that. Library editors can be a real challenge.

> Thanks for the input.

> I think I have seen that some manufacturers have (of course) their own
> components that you can download and put into these programs. Is this
> something worthy to do?

> eg. see link for a nice collection
> http://homepages.which.net/~paul.hills/Circuits/Spice/ModelIndex.html

> I would rather spend my time on developing the project than developing the
> project that's developing the project if you know what I mean.

> How do you use these files anyway I can't seem to see any import mecanism?

> >> >I am a novice. And even more of a novice at this spice program.
> >> > I am trying to "play" with the program to see how it works etc. So Im

> >> > some schematics and replicating them in the spice program to see how

> >> > works.
> >> > My current sample project requires a 1 Amp 200V Bridge Rectifier.
> >> >
> >> > I cannot see this component in the components list. Am I missing

> >>
> >> You have learned, early, the widely known fact
> >> that the available models (assuming they are any
> >> good) are a big part of the value of any simulator
> >> package.
> >>
> >> > Am I suppose to use 4 Diodes as a work around or should I move to the
> >> > next step in this program and make a new component?
> >>
> >> For playing, if you can find some 1A 200V
> >> diodes, just hook them up and be happy. Or,
> >> if you want to play with component creation,
> >> do that. Library editors can be a real challenge.

>

> > Thanks for the input.

> Anytime.
>

> > I think I have seen that some manufacturers have (of course) their own
> > components that you can download and put into these programs. Is this
> > something worthy to do?

>
> Yes, especially if you will be simulating "real"
> circuits (using "real" parts and which will end
> up becoming actual hardware), where their
> performance or predictability matters.
>

> > eg. see link for a nice collection
> > http://homepages.which.net/~paul.hills/Circuits/Spice/ModelIndex.html

>
> I'll take a look, thanks.
>

> > I would rather spend my time on developing the project than developing

> > project that's developing the project if you know what I mean.

>
> If you are merely interested in play, it hardly
> matters what you do if you enjoy it. But if
> your play is a learning exercise, with some
> future useful application in mind, then you
> would do well to get past the "pull in what
> appears in the menus, hook it up, hit run"
> phase. Using models not provided by the
> simulator vendor is an important part of that.
>

> > How do you use these files anyway I can't seem to see any import

>
> In SwitcherCAD and most other SPICE simulators,
> you can arrange for whatever statements you like to
> end up in the "(card) deck" that is actually input to
> the simulation engine.
>
> Lookup the help on the .MODEL and .SUBCKT
> directives. By including the models you get from
> a manufacturer (which will generally be in either
> model or subcircuit form) as text items in your
> schematic, marked as "SPICE directive" in the
> dialog that creates/edits them, you can make the
> models available. By slightly editing the devices
> you use, they can be made to use those models.
>
> There is a whole different scheme for incorporating
> models, subcircuits and schematics into library
> components you create. See the help for that.
>
> There is a forum for LTSpice on Yahoo. That
> would be a better place take the more detailed
> questions that will surely arise as you proceed.
>
> --
> --Larry Brasfield
> email: donotspam_larry_brasfield@hotmail.com
> Above views may belong only to me.
>
>