Hobby Electronics Basics LM380 Amplifier Volume Not Working

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LM380 Amplifier Volume Not Working Dave.H 06-06-08
Posted by Dave.H on June 6, 2008, 10:27 am
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I am having trouble with a small battery operated amp based on the
LM380 chip. The volume control isn't working, all it does it change
the amount of crackle in the speaker when iPod volume is up high, and
also isn't loud. I had the prototype amp working excellent (with same
pot) and even tried two different chips, same result. I really want to
get this amp working for a regen radio, so any help is appreciated. I
checked everything against the schematic (which can be found in the
link below) a few time, but my tired eyes could have missed
something. I'm running the whole thing of a single 9 volt battery.

http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.filereader?4849476303bce49a273fc0a87f9c06fd+EN/catalogs/SUPZ6080

Thanks
Dave

Posted by John Popelish on June 6, 2008, 11:18 am
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Dave.H wrote:
> I am having trouble with a small battery operated amp based on the
> LM380 chip. The volume control isn't working, all it does it change
> the amount of crackle in the speaker when iPod volume is up high, and
> also isn't loud. I had the prototype amp working excellent (with same
> pot) and even tried two different chips, same result. I really want to
> get this amp working for a regen radio, so any help is appreciated. I
> checked everything against the schematic (which can be found in the
> link below) a few time, but my tired eyes could have missed
> something. I'm running the whole thing of a single 9 volt battery.
>
>
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.filereader?4849476303bce49a273fc0a87f9c06fd+EN/catalogs/SUPZ6080

If the prototype works then I suspect you have made some
error in the final construction. I think the design would
be better if the two input 2u2 caps were in series directly
at the input, one turned each way, to handle a DC bias in
either direction (with the pot wiper connected directly to
pin 6), but that is not your problem.

If you want help with a visual inspection, You will have to
post a link to some close up photos of your assembly.

If that is difficult, you might post a list of pin voltages
with the negative probe on pin 7.

--
Regards,

John Popelish

Posted by Dave.H on June 6, 2008, 11:47 am
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> Dave.H wrote:
> > I am having trouble with a small battery operated amp based on the
> > LM380 chip. The volume control isn't working, all it does it change
> > the amount of crackle in the speaker when iPod volume is up high, and
> > also isn't loud. I had the prototype amp working excellent (with same
> > pot) and even tried two different chips, same result. I really want to
> > get this amp working for a regen radio, so any help is appreciated. I
> > checked everything against the schematic (which can be found in the
> > link below) a few time, but my tired eyes could have missed
> > something. I'm running the whole thing of a single 9 volt battery.
>
> >http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.filereader?4849476303bce49a273fc0a8...
>
> If the prototype works then I suspect you have made some
> error in the final construction. I think the design would
> be better if the two input 2u2 caps were in series directly
> at the input, one turned each way, to handle a DC bias in
> either direction (with the pot wiper connected directly to
> pin 6), but that is not your problem.
>
> If you want help with a visual inspection, You will have to
> post a link to some close up photos of your assembly.
>
> If that is difficult, you might post a list of pin voltages
> with the negative probe on pin 7.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> John Popelish

List of pin voltages
1: 4.13
2: 011.9 - 012.0
3: 0
4: 0
5: 0
6: 0
8: 4.09
10: 0
11: 0
12: 0
13: 7.82

I won't post pictures as the wiring isn't the neatest, and it's hard
to tell what's going on from a photo.
3:


Thanks,
Dave

Posted by Dave.H on June 6, 2008, 11:49 am
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>
>
>
> > Dave.H wrote:
> > > I am having trouble with a small battery operated amp based on the
> > > LM380 chip. The volume control isn't working, all it does it change
> > > the amount of crackle in the speaker when iPod volume is up high, and
> > > also isn't loud. I had the prototype amp working excellent (with same
> > > pot) and even tried two different chips, same result. I really want to
> > > get this amp working for a regen radio, so any help is appreciated. I
> > > checked everything against the schematic (which can be found in the
> > > link below) a few time, but my tired eyes could have missed
> > > something. I'm running the whole thing of a single 9 volt battery.
>
> > >http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.filereader?4849476303bce49a273fc0a8...
>
> > If the prototype works then I suspect you have made some
> > error in the final construction. I think the design would
> > be better if the two input 2u2 caps were in series directly
> > at the input, one turned each way, to handle a DC bias in
> > either direction (with the pot wiper connected directly to
> > pin 6), but that is not your problem.
>
> > If you want help with a visual inspection, You will have to
> > post a link to some close up photos of your assembly.
>
> > If that is difficult, you might post a list of pin voltages
> > with the negative probe on pin 7.
>
> > --
> > Regards,
>
> > John Popelish
>
> List of pin voltages
> 1: 4.13
> 2: 011.9 - 012.0
> 3: 0
> 4: 0
> 5: 0
> 6: 0
> 8: 4.09
> 10: 0
> 11: 0
> 12: 0
> 13: 7.82
>
> I won't post pictures as the wiring isn't the neatest, and it's hard
> to tell what's going on from a photo.
> 3:
>
> Thanks,
> Dave

13 on that list should be 14.

Posted by Dave.H on June 6, 2008, 11:51 am
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>
>
>
> > Dave.H wrote:
> > > I am having trouble with a small battery operated amp based on the
> > > LM380 chip. The volume control isn't working, all it does it change
> > > the amount of crackle in the speaker when iPod volume is up high, and
> > > also isn't loud. I had the prototype amp working excellent (with same
> > > pot) and even tried two different chips, same result. I really want to
> > > get this amp working for a regen radio, so any help is appreciated. I
> > > checked everything against the schematic (which can be found in the
> > > link below) a few time, but my tired eyes could have missed
> > > something. I'm running the whole thing of a single 9 volt battery.
>
> > >http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.filereader?4849476303bce49a273fc0a8...
>
> > If the prototype works then I suspect you have made some
> > error in the final construction. I think the design would
> > be better if the two input 2u2 caps were in series directly
> > at the input, one turned each way, to handle a DC bias in
> > either direction (with the pot wiper connected directly to
> > pin 6), but that is not your problem.
>
> > If you want help with a visual inspection, You will have to
> > post a link to some close up photos of your assembly.
>
> > If that is difficult, you might post a list of pin voltages
> > with the negative probe on pin 7.
>
> > --
> > Regards,
>
> > John Popelish
>
> List of pin voltages
> 1: 4.13
> 2: 011.9 - 012.0
> 3: 0
> 4: 0
> 5: 0
> 6: 0
> 8: 4.09
> 10: 0
> 11: 0
> 12: 0
> 13: 7.82
>
> I won't post pictures as the wiring isn't the neatest, and it's hard
> to tell what's going on from a photo.
> 3:
>
> Thanks,
> Dave

Also pin 6 is 11.3 mV.

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