Re: Scare of the day...
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Posted by JeffM on June 27, 2008, 6:04 pm
Please log in for more thread options ..and D.C. will be SO much better with MORE guns because we all know that the USA (because it is the most-armed nation) has the lowest firearm murder rate. Oh, wait... Your one-data-point analysis is pretty clueless as well: http://www.google.com/search?q=population-density+new-hampshire+125 http://www.google.com/search?q=population-density+washington-d.c+9316.4 . . If you're going to post from Google, you should learn HOW: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/bad6531ce8b26df3?q=as-well-as-other-things+THE-TRICK+Google.blockquotes.them+long-links+get.butchered Another hint: Blockquoting someone else's *sig* is DUMB. | |||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Don Klipstein on June 27, 2008, 7:02 pm
Please log in for more thread options >PeterD wrote:
>>Here's a test:
>>Which has lower gun problems: >>DC with it's idiotic gun restrictions, or >>NH with no gun restrictions. >> >>I'll give you a hint, it ain't DC. It is proven time and time again >>that the gun restrictions don't save lives, or make the environment >>safer, then only give the criminals the peace of mind knowing that >>when they break into a home, they are safe! >
>..and D.C. will be SO much better with MORE guns >because we all know that the USA (because it is the most-armed nation) >has the lowest firearm murder rate. >Oh, wait... > >Your one-data-point analysis is pretty clueless as well: >http://www.google.com/search?q=population-density+new-hampshire+125 >http://www.google.com/search?q=population-density+washington-d.c+9316.4 DC has high gun crime rate in part from depriving its law abiding citizens of self defense weapons while not doing anything from stopping its law-flouting criminals from going out of town to get guns in the one prosperous democracy that on a national basis lets most people get them. Municipal gun control laws are counterproductive! - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com) | |||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Don Klipstein on June 28, 2008, 12:55 am
Please log in for more thread options >On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:02:58 +0000 (UTC), don@manx.misty.com (Don
>Klipstein) wrote: > >>JeffM wrote:
>> >>>PeterD wrote:
>>>>Here's a test: >>>>Which has lower gun problems: >>>>DC with it's idiotic gun restrictions, or >>>>NH with no gun restrictions. >>>> >>>>I'll give you a hint, it ain't DC. It is proven time and time again >>>>that the gun restrictions don't save lives, or make the environment >>>>safer, then only give the criminals the peace of mind knowing that >>>>when they break into a home, they are safe! >>> >>>..and D.C. will be SO much better with MORE guns >>>because we all know that the USA (because it is the most-armed nation) >>>has the lowest firearm murder rate. >>>Oh, wait... >>> >>>Your one-data-point analysis is pretty clueless as well: >>>http://www.google.com/search?q=population-density+new-hampshire+125 >>>http://www.google.com/search?q=population-density+washington-d.c+9316.4 >>
>> DC has high gun crime rate in part from depriving its law abiding >>citizens of self defense weapons while not doing anything from stopping >>its law-flouting criminals from going out of town to get guns in the one >>prosperous democracy that on a national basis lets most people get them. >> >> Municipal gun control laws are counterproductive! >> >> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com) >
>Ever been in DC? Merely doing that, I have done quite a few times. >Some years ago I had a project with the Navy Research Labs.
> >So a bunch of us are walking back from dinner along the Tidal Basin. > >Cabby comes along, stops, and says, "It's not safe to walk along here" > >Since there's five of us we say, "We're OK" > >He says, "No you're not. Get in and I'll take you to your hotel for >FREE" > <SNIP from here to edit for space, while not trying to snip bad news>
I suspect the cabby is a crook that lives by having a gun in his car in a municipality with municipal gun laws that don't stop outlaws from going out of town to get guns. A deal "too good to be true" is "too good to be true" whether in an outlaw-land or in whatever area has very high compliance of laws even if compliance occurs to an extent indicating great voluntary compliance as opposed to compliance limited to enforcement success. It appears to me that gun control laws are only effective to the extent that they are nationwide, upheld by national courts for nationwide enforcement, and enforced nationwide. I find municipal gun control laws to have outright negative effectiveness. - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com) | |||||||||||||||||||
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>Which has lower gun problems:
>DC with it's idiotic gun restrictions, or
>NH with no gun restrictions.
>
>I'll give you a hint, it ain't DC. It is proven time and time again
>that the gun restrictions don't save lives, or make the environment
>safer, then only give the criminals the peace of mind knowing that
>when they break into a home, they are safe!