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Op Amp model michael.mcgarry 11-26-05
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Posted by on November 26, 2005, 3:59 pm
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Hi,

I want to model an Op Amp using a laplace transform. How can I do this
if there is a single pole and unity gain frequency of 2.31Mhz?

What would be the H(s) equation?

Any help is greatly appreciated,

Michael


Posted by Jim Thompson on November 26, 2005, 5:38 pm
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On 26 Nov 2005 15:59:16 -0800, michael.mcgarry@gmail.com wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I want to model an Op Amp using a laplace transform. How can I do this
>if there is a single pole and unity gain frequency of 2.31Mhz?
>
>What would be the H(s) equation?
>
>Any help is greatly appreciated,
>
>Michael

What grade will I get from the instructor ?:-)

...Jim Thompson
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Posted by Fred Bartoli on November 27, 2005, 10:57 am
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> On 26 Nov 2005 15:59:16 -0800, michael.mcgarry@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I want to model an Op Amp using a laplace transform. How can I do this
> >if there is a single pole and unity gain frequency of 2.31Mhz?
> >
> >What would be the H(s) equation?
> >
> >Any help is greatly appreciated,
> >
> >Michael
>
> What grade will I get from the instructor ?:-)
>

Plain zero :-)
Your model will have additional lag and won't reach the instructor's desk in
time.


--
Thanks,
Fred.



Posted by Jim Thompson on November 27, 2005, 8:56 am
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On 26 Nov 2005 15:59:16 -0800, michael.mcgarry@gmail.com wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I want to model an Op Amp using a laplace transform. How can I do this
>if there is a single pole and unity gain frequency of 2.31Mhz?
>
>What would be the H(s) equation?
>
>Any help is greatly appreciated,
>
>Michael

GDC = DC Gain

GBW = Gain-Bandwidth in radians/sec

H(s) = (GDC*GBW)/(GDC*s + GBW)

or

H(s) = GBW/(s + GBW/GDC)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Posted by Winfield Hill on November 27, 2005, 8:26 am
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Jim Thompson wrote...
>
> GDC = DC Gain
> GBW = Gain-Bandwidth in radians/sec
>
> H(s) = GBW/(s + GBW/GDC)

I prefer re-arraigning,

H(s) = 1 / (s/GBW + 1/GDC) ~= 1 / s/GBW = GBW/s

In this it's clear we can usually ignore 1/GDC ~= 0,
yielding H(s) = BGW/s - which is useful because it
highlights an important opamp parameter.


--
Thanks,
- Win

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