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Home lab suggestions? Phil Hobbs 08-02-06
Posted by Phil Hobbs on August 2, 2006, 1:37 pm
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Well, after raising two very fine daughters who both turned out to be
gifted in fuzzy subjects such as languages and history and bunk like
that, my son is showing signs of technical aptitude and interest.

Therefore, I'm putting together a lowish-budget home lab off ebay, with
an eye to doing some Jacob's ladders or Tesla coils or stuff like that
there, with maybe an electro-optical thing now and again, such as a
machine to detect deer and hit them with paintballs. ;)

So far, I have:

Tek 475A 250 MHz scope with DMM;

2x HP 6286 20V, 10A power supplies;

1x HP 8013B 50 MHz pulser;

HP 400A AC Voltmeter;

Various Simpson meters and Fluke DVMs and such like.

Enough probes and test leads for now.

I already owned the DVM, but so far the rest have cost me about $400 all
told. Some of this stuff I had to get my second line manager's approval
on, when I bought it for work long ago! Nice old test equipment is
monstrous cheap.

I'm bidding on various HP universal counters and Exact function
generators, which I like. Haven't got enough dough for a spectrum
analyzer, unfortunately. Remaining budget is ~$400.

So which of your favourite old instruments have I forgotten?

Cheers,

Phil

Posted by martin griffith on August 2, 2006, 1:59 pm
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:37:00 -0400, in sci.electronics.design Phil

>Well, after raising two very fine daughters who both turned out to be
>gifted in fuzzy subjects such as languages and history and bunk like
>that, my son is showing signs of technical aptitude and interest.
>
>Therefore, I'm putting together a lowish-budget home lab off ebay, with
>an eye to doing some Jacob's ladders or Tesla coils or stuff like that
>there, with maybe an electro-optical thing now and again, such as a
>machine to detect deer and hit them with paintballs. ;)
>
>So far, I have:
>
>Tek 475A 250 MHz scope with DMM;
>
>2x HP 6286 20V, 10A power supplies;
>
>1x HP 8013B 50 MHz pulser;
>
>HP 400A AC Voltmeter;
>
>Various Simpson meters and Fluke DVMs and such like.
>
>Enough probes and test leads for now.
>
>I already owned the DVM, but so far the rest have cost me about $400 all
>told. Some of this stuff I had to get my second line manager's approval
>on, when I bought it for work long ago! Nice old test equipment is
>monstrous cheap.
>
>I'm bidding on various HP universal counters and Exact function
>generators, which I like. Haven't got enough dough for a spectrum
>analyzer, unfortunately. Remaining budget is ~$400.
>
>So which of your favourite old instruments have I forgotten?
>
>Cheers,

What sort of mechanical tools do you have?
A descent bench vice, pillar drill and assorted blunt drills

and a variac


martin

Posted by Phil Hobbs on August 2, 2006, 2:10 pm
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martin griffith wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:37:00 -0400, in sci.electronics.design Phil
>
>
>>Well, after raising two very fine daughters who both turned out to be
>>gifted in fuzzy subjects such as languages and history and bunk like
>>that, my son is showing signs of technical aptitude and interest.
>>
>>Therefore, I'm putting together a lowish-budget home lab off ebay, with
>>an eye to doing some Jacob's ladders or Tesla coils or stuff like that
>>there, with maybe an electro-optical thing now and again, such as a
>>machine to detect deer and hit them with paintballs. ;)
>>
>>So far, I have:
>>
>>Tek 475A 250 MHz scope with DMM;
>>
>>2x HP 6286 20V, 10A power supplies;
>>
>>1x HP 8013B 50 MHz pulser;
>>
>>HP 400A AC Voltmeter;
>>
>>Various Simpson meters and Fluke DVMs and such like.
>>
>>Enough probes and test leads for now.
>>
>>I already owned the DVM, but so far the rest have cost me about $400 all
>>told. Some of this stuff I had to get my second line manager's approval
>>on, when I bought it for work long ago! Nice old test equipment is
>>monstrous cheap.
>>
>>I'm bidding on various HP universal counters and Exact function
>>generators, which I like. Haven't got enough dough for a spectrum
>>analyzer, unfortunately. Remaining budget is ~$400.
>>
>>So which of your favourite old instruments have I forgotten?
>>
>>Cheers,
>
>
> What sort of mechanical tools do you have?
> A descent bench vice, pillar drill and assorted blunt drills
>
> and a variac
>
>
> martin

Good point. Don't have enough of those things, especially no drill
press. I have a Panavise and hand drills, but that isn't the same.
Variacs I've been looking at, but I'm mostly going to be starting from
good-quality DC power, at least initially, so I can do the "gradual
smoke test" with the panel knobs.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

Posted by Chris Jones on August 3, 2006, 6:53 pm
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Phil Hobbs wrote:

> martin griffith wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:37:00 -0400, in sci.electronics.design Phil
>>
>>
>>>Well, after raising two very fine daughters who both turned out to be
>>>gifted in fuzzy subjects such as languages and history and bunk like
>>>that, my son is showing signs of technical aptitude and interest.
>>>
>>>Therefore, I'm putting together a lowish-budget home lab off ebay, with
>>>an eye to doing some Jacob's ladders or Tesla coils or stuff like that
>>>there, with maybe an electro-optical thing now and again, such as a
>>>machine to detect deer and hit them with paintballs. ;)
>>>
>>>So far, I have:
>>>
>>>Tek 475A 250 MHz scope with DMM;
>>>
>>>2x HP 6286 20V, 10A power supplies;
>>>
>>>1x HP 8013B 50 MHz pulser;
>>>
>>>HP 400A AC Voltmeter;
>>>
>>>Various Simpson meters and Fluke DVMs and such like.
>>>
>>>Enough probes and test leads for now.
>>>
>>>I already owned the DVM, but so far the rest have cost me about $400 all
>>>told. Some of this stuff I had to get my second line manager's approval
>>>on, when I bought it for work long ago! Nice old test equipment is
>>>monstrous cheap.
>>>
>>>I'm bidding on various HP universal counters and Exact function
>>>generators, which I like. Haven't got enough dough for a spectrum
>>>analyzer, unfortunately. Remaining budget is ~$400.
>>>
>>>So which of your favourite old instruments have I forgotten?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>
>>
>> What sort of mechanical tools do you have?
>> A descent bench vice, pillar drill and assorted blunt drills
>>
>> and a variac
>>
>>
>> martin
>
> Good point. Don't have enough of those things, especially no drill
> press. I have a Panavise and hand drills, but that isn't the same.
> Variacs I've been looking at, but I'm mostly going to be starting from
> good-quality DC power, at least initially, so I can do the "gradual
> smoke test" with the panel knobs.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Phil Hobbs

Variacs are fun for experimenting with motors, electromagnets, small coil
guns, Jacob's ladder etc., make sure it has a circuit breaker or fuse that
will protect the variac and make sure you have an earth leakage (or
whatever you call them) breaker for the bench to cut it off if anyone gets
a shock of the kind that one of those can detect (but it won't help for the
Jacob's ladder).

Chris

Posted by Phil Hobbs on August 3, 2006, 6:15 pm
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Chris Jones wrote:

> Phil Hobbs wrote:
>
>
>>martin griffith wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:37:00 -0400, in sci.electronics.design Phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well, after raising two very fine daughters who both turned out to be
>>>>gifted in fuzzy subjects such as languages and history and bunk like
>>>>that, my son is showing signs of technical aptitude and interest.
>>>>
>>>>Therefore, I'm putting together a lowish-budget home lab off ebay, with
>>>>an eye to doing some Jacob's ladders or Tesla coils or stuff like that
>>>>there, with maybe an electro-optical thing now and again, such as a
>>>>machine to detect deer and hit them with paintballs. ;)
>>>>
>>>>So far, I have:
>>>>
>>>>Tek 475A 250 MHz scope with DMM;
>>>>
>>>>2x HP 6286 20V, 10A power supplies;
>>>>
>>>>1x HP 8013B 50 MHz pulser;
>>>>
>>>>HP 400A AC Voltmeter;
>>>>
>>>>Various Simpson meters and Fluke DVMs and such like.
>>>>
>>>>Enough probes and test leads for now.
>>>>
>>>>I already owned the DVM, but so far the rest have cost me about $400 all
>>>>told. Some of this stuff I had to get my second line manager's approval
>>>>on, when I bought it for work long ago! Nice old test equipment is
>>>>monstrous cheap.
>>>>
>>>>I'm bidding on various HP universal counters and Exact function
>>>>generators, which I like. Haven't got enough dough for a spectrum
>>>>analyzer, unfortunately. Remaining budget is ~$400.
>>>>
>>>>So which of your favourite old instruments have I forgotten?
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>What sort of mechanical tools do you have?
>>>A descent bench vice, pillar drill and assorted blunt drills
>>>
>>> and a variac
>>>
>>>
>>>martin
>>
>>Good point. Don't have enough of those things, especially no drill
>>press. I have a Panavise and hand drills, but that isn't the same.
>>Variacs I've been looking at, but I'm mostly going to be starting from
>>good-quality DC power, at least initially, so I can do the "gradual
>>smoke test" with the panel knobs.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Phil Hobbs
>
>
> Variacs are fun for experimenting with motors, electromagnets, small coil
> guns, Jacob's ladder etc., make sure it has a circuit breaker or fuse that
> will protect the variac and make sure you have an earth leakage (or
> whatever you call them) breaker for the bench to cut it off if anyone gets
> a shock of the kind that one of those can detect (but it won't help for the
> Jacob's ladder).
>
> Chris

Right, HV safety is important, but on the other hand a boy has to do
some real stuff to grow up. Pyrotechnics, firearms, rotating machinery,
and high voltage are good candidates--much safer than talking to strange
women, say. It's no use growing up into a perfectly safe wimp.

I learned about high voltage the hard way when I was about 14--I was
building a 1.5 kV power supply for a transmitter. I couldn't afford the
transmitter parts, but the power supply I could build from cast-off TVs,
so I did. It had a monster 750V CT transformer from an old Admiral
26-inch colour set, that must have weighed 50 pounds. It was a choke
input bridge rectifier setup, because I only had one HV cap.

I was working on it in front of a window in the attic, which was the 3rd
floor, above a verandah, holding the chassis in my left hand, when I
accidentally touched the B+ output with my right index finger. I woke
up across the room on the floor, but the supply went through the window
pane, knocked two shingles out of the porch roof, and embedded itself in
the lawn. I still have the scar on my finger--it's a good reminder of
my mortality.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

BTW: Just picked up an irresistible bargain on a Tek 464 storage scope.
I'm swearing off Ebay for a month.

PH

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