Electronics Design Flyback output diode peak curent vs average current

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Flyback output diode peak curent vs average current Mook Johnson 07-03-08
Posted by Mook Johnson on July 3, 2008, 12:12 pm
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In a DCM flyback with its high peak to average current ratio. When sizing a
diode do you rate thediode for the maximum peak current. I have a 2A
average current with 12A peaks at the start of the flyback. Repeats every
5uS.

Which current rating should I look for in the diode? 3A? 6A? 15A? All of
this makes a difference in the size of the diode package which I'm trying to
minimize. The diode datasheets don't have a repetative peak current rating
on the nonrepeataive rating.

thanks




Posted by Yzordderrex on July 3, 2008, 12:34 pm
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> In a DCM flyback with its high peak to average current ratio. =A0When siz=
ing a
> diode do you rate thediode for the maximum peak current. =A0I have a 2A
> average current with 12A peaks at the start of the flyback. =A0Repeats ev=
ery
> 5uS.
>
> Which current rating should I look for in the diode? =A03A? 6A? 15A? =A0A=
ll of
> this makes a difference in the size of the diode package which I'm trying=
to
> minimize. =A0The diode datasheets don't have a repetative peak current ra=
ting
> on the nonrepeataive rating.
>
> thanks

Put the smallest diode in and see how hot it gets. If you can hold
your finger on it it's probably good enough. Some may tell you it
should sizzle when you spit on it. This is the backyard engineering
way to do it. To do this correctly you would want to calculate losses
and determine junction temperature in hottest environent and so
forth. To calculate losses you need to know instantaneous current and
voltage and then integrate that over a switching cycle. stand by for
a bunch of alternate ways of doing. many ways to skin this cat.

regards,
Bob
N9NEO
just say NEO!

Posted by legg on July 3, 2008, 5:40 pm
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wrote:

>In a DCM flyback with its high peak to average current ratio. When sizing a
>diode do you rate thediode for the maximum peak current. I have a 2A
>average current with 12A peaks at the start of the flyback. Repeats every
>5uS.
>
>Which current rating should I look for in the diode? 3A? 6A? 15A? All of
>this makes a difference in the size of the diode package which I'm trying to
>minimize. The diode datasheets don't have a repetative peak current rating
>on the nonrepeataive rating.
>
Conventional rectifiers are rated for average forward current, as the
forward drop is relatively constant. The power loss vs average current
for a range of duty cycles is a fairly common chart provided for
design - 0.1 duty assumes a 10:1 peak to average current ratio.

In hard switching, peak current and temperature will affect stored
charge in conventional diodes, increasing losses elsewhere.

Schottkys tending to look more resistive and have RMS considerations.
Though forward losses reduce as Tj increases, increasing leakage may
be signifigant and can result in thermal runaway.

Your concern should be Tj, Rthja, power loss, and maximum ambient, in
most cases.

RL

Posted by Adam S on July 4, 2008, 6:23 am
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Mook Johnson wrote:
> In a DCM flyback with its high peak to average current ratio. When sizing a
> diode do you rate thediode for the maximum peak current. I have a 2A
> average current with 12A peaks at the start of the flyback. Repeats every
> 5uS.
>
> Which current rating should I look for in the diode? 3A? 6A? 15A?

As others have said it depends on maximum Tj, which depends on ambient
temperature and junction to ambient Rth. A 200A diode will cook itself
in your application if its in a vacuum and attached with thin wires.


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