Cisco Systems rapid network reconvergence technology?

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rapid network reconvergence technology? Trs80 08-16-09
Posted by Trs80 on August 16, 2009, 5:04 pm
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On a simple routed path with 2 paths, if a path is broken, it takes about 2
seconds for data to be rerouted over the alternate path.

Is there technology available that will provide much faster router
reconvergence over a simple 2 path network like described above?

Nortel has something called SuperMezz but I cant find any information about
it or how it works. Does Cisco have something. Any url references or
search tips would be appreciated.
thank you



Posted by bod43 on August 16, 2009, 7:50 pm
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> On a simple routed path with 2 paths, if a path is broken, it takes about=
2
> seconds for data to be rerouted over the alternate path.
>
> Is there technology available that will provide much faster router
> reconvergence over a simple 2 path network like described above?
>
> Nortel has something called SuperMezz but I cant find any information abo=
ut
> it or how it works. =A0Does Cisco have something. =A0Any url references o=
r
> search tips would be appreciated.
> thank you

I have heard that ISIS has the fastest failover of the
IGPs.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/technologies/tk869/tk769/technologies_white_pape=
r09186a00801dce40.html

May get you started.

Unless you really, really need fast failover I would not
recommend fiddling with the default timers. At the end
of the day while some super quick failover sounds
quite seductive if you end up creating an unstable
network that simply dies when it goes wrong
no one will give you any prizes.

If you say more about what you are wanting to do then
maybe someone can come up with some suggestions.

For example -
- how many routers/links/user segments are required
- what protocols/applications require the quick failover
- what bandwidth is the slowest link
- probably more questions

I have not read this -
http://www.networkingunlimited.com/bookpages.html
The author is a past poster here and seems pretty sensible.
I think the book was out of print but maybe amazon have a
used one. It may be a bit out of date regarding timer
settings but should have good ideas.

You could always hire him.

http://www.sun.com/blueprints/1203/817-4683.pdf
I bumped into this - not read it either.


Posted by bod43 on August 16, 2009, 8:03 pm
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> I have not read this -http://www.networkingunlimited.com/bookpages.html

High Availability Networking with Cisco (Paperback)
by Vincent C. Jones (Author)

Seems that someone likes it - =A3169.81
+ =A32.75shipping
Used - Like New
Seller: anybook-uk

Bet Vincent wishes he has a few in his
retirement fund:-)

Other people are asking *much less* by the way.


Posted by Stephen on August 17, 2009, 12:23 pm
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>On a simple routed path with 2 paths, if a path is broken, it takes about 2
>seconds for data to be rerouted over the alternate path.
>
a lot depends on what is making the reroute happen.

to change to a new path you generally need to

1. detect the fault in a circuit carrying traffic and switch.
cisco by default add a delay to this of 5 sec for some types of
interface
2. wait for any routing protocol delay
3. wait for any routing updates needed (n/a if you run OSPF or IS-IS,
can be avoided with EIGRP with good design - but often isnt).
4. recalc the route
5. update the forwarding table and start using it.

note 1 is nothing directly to do with the routing protocol.

>Is there technology available that will provide much faster router
>reconvergence over a simple 2 path network like described above?
>
yes - and some other things that may help in some setups, such as MPLS
fast reroute.

>Nortel has something called SuperMezz but I cant find any information about
>it or how it works. Does Cisco have something. Any url references or
>search tips would be appreciated.

the golden rule is - avoid non standard "stuff" whenever you can as
the unpleasant surprise risks go up.

cisco has a bunch of best practice docs - unfortunately they just
"improved" their web site again to make it more industry specific and
so made them much more difficult to find. Talk about shooting yourself
in the foot.....

this one is about actual convergence in a campus, but the principles
and routing protocols are applicable to a WAN.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/solutions/Enterprise/Campus/HA_recovery_DG/campusRecovery.html

>thank you
>
--
Regards

stephen_hope@xyzworld.com - replace xyz with ntl

Posted by John Agosta on August 17, 2009, 6:51 pm
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>
>>On a simple routed path with 2 paths, if a path is broken, it takes about
>>2
>>seconds for data to be rerouted over the alternate path.
>>
> a lot depends on what is making the reroute happen.
>
> to change to a new path you generally need to
>
> 1. detect the fault in a circuit carrying traffic and switch.
> cisco by default add a delay to this of 5 sec for some types of
> interface
> 2. wait for any routing protocol delay
> 3. wait for any routing updates needed (n/a if you run OSPF or IS-IS,
> can be avoided with EIGRP with good design - but often isnt).
> 4. recalc the route
> 5. update the forwarding table and start using it.
>
> note 1 is nothing directly to do with the routing protocol.
>
>>Is there technology available that will provide much faster router
>>reconvergence over a simple 2 path network like described above?
>>
> yes - and some other things that may help in some setups, such as MPLS
> fast reroute.
>
>>Nortel has something called SuperMezz but I cant find any information
>>about
>>it or how it works. Does Cisco have something. Any url references or
>>search tips would be appreciated.
>
> the golden rule is - avoid non standard "stuff" whenever you can as
> the unpleasant surprise risks go up.
>
> cisco has a bunch of best practice docs - unfortunately they just
> "improved" their web site again to make it more industry specific and
> so made them much more difficult to find. Talk about shooting yourself
> in the foot.....
>
> this one is about actual convergence in a campus, but the principles
> and routing protocols are applicable to a WAN.
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/solutions/Enterprise/Campus/HA_recovery_DG/campusRecovery.html
>
>>thank you
>>
> --
> Regards
>
> stephen_hope@xyzworld.com - replace xyz with ntl


You want to look into "Bi-directional Forwarding Detection" (BFD)
((seriously, it's called "BFD")

-ja



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