How Can This Be - HSRP & PING

All,

I have 2 x separate questions as follows:

1) Ping

Router -----DMVPN-----PIX----Internet

877 2801 515E-R

From my remote 877 DMVPN router I can ping my inside & outside 2801 DMVPN router without loss of a packet. Whenever I ping the inside of the PIX or beyond (the Internet) I get sporadic responses with Pings (some hits, some misses). There is a route on the PIX pointing at my 877's network via the

2801 (hence some ICMP packet hits) so I am sure the routing is OK. One caveat, if I set the size of the ping e.g 64 bytes, 1000 bytes 1400 bytes etc the response if 100% successful, if I set the size of the ping packet to the Cisco default 100 bytes it give me the hit / miss response.

On my DMVPN interface's I have tcp mss-adjust 1360 and MTU size of 1400 configured.

2) HSRP

A colleague has configured 2 x 3825 routers with an IP address on their Gig

0/0 ports with a 10.x.x.x /24 address. Under the same interface he has a standby IP address 62.x.x.x. His Gig ports connect to a switch and ultimately a Telco router that he runs eBGP with. He said that this allows him to provide resiliency to the Telco router.

I thought that the standby address had to be on the same subnet as the IP address coded under the port. He said the above works because the config provides resilience at layer 2 and not to get this confused with layer 3.

Anyone seen this before or have I go the wrong end of the stick.

Reply to
Darren Green
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if I set the size of the ping e.g 64 bytes, 1000 bytes 1400 bytes

try to capture the ping packets on the PIX inside interface using the capture command to see if the PIX receives the ICMP packest and replies

the setup described is quite valid. There was a recent posting on this subject in the group

see

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Merv

Merv,

Thanks for your help. I have entered answers below.

A- It does, I see the Pings come into the PIX and the replies going back towards the 877. Interesting I did a debug ip icmp on the 2801 DMVPN router and it didn't produce any results - but some must pings must be getting through as I get !..!. on the 877. This differs each time I send the Ping.

If I ping from the PIX to the 877 I get 100% response. I am suspecting that I have either a fragmentation problem or the encryption / decryption process isn't doing what it should.

The PIX and 2800 are connected via a L2 switch (2950) I'll see what this throws up.

Can't believe I missed that one. Thanks for the link.

Regards

Darren

Reply to
Darren Green

So I assume that you can ping from 2800 to the PIX without any issues

Does using extended ping on the 877 with the LAN IP address as the source IP address make any diiference ???

Reply to
Merv

Post show version and running config for 877

Reply to
Merv

Merv,

Info below. I had to strip out parts of the access-list that referenced public IP's.

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4 FastEthernet interfaces 1 ATM interface 128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory. 24576K bytes of processor board System flash (Intel Strataflash)

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version 12.4 no service pad service timestamps debug datetime msec service timestamps log datetime msec service password-encryption ! hostname R02 ! boot-start-marker boot-end-marker ! logging buffered 4096 debugging enable secret XXXXXXXXXXXXX ! aaa new-model ! ! ! aaa session-id common ! resource policy ! ip cef ! ! ! ! no ip domain lookup ip domain name XYZ.co.uk ! ! ! username XXXXXXXXXXXXXX password XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ! ! ! crypto isakmp policy 1 authentication pre-share group 2 crypto isakmp key XXXXXXXXXXXXXX address 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 crypto isakmp invalid-spi-recovery crypto isakmp keepalive 65 15 ! ! crypto ipsec transform-set mGRE esp-3des esp-md5-hmac mode transport ! crypto ipsec profile mGRE set transform-set mGRE ! ! ! ! ! interface Tunnel1 description Secondary link bandwidth 256 ip address 172.16.0.2 255.255.255.0 no ip redirects ip mtu 1400 ip nhrp authentication XXXXXXX ip nhrp map multicast 10.X.X.X ip nhrp map 172.16.0.1 10.X.X.X ip nhrp network-id 1 ip nhrp holdtime 600 ip nhrp nhs 172.16.0.1 ip tcp adjust-mss 1360 delay 1000 tunnel source Dialer0 tunnel mode gre multipoint tunnel key XXXXXXXX tunnel protection ipsec profile mGRE ! interface Loopback0 ip address 172.31.236.2 255.255.255.255 ! interface ATM0 no ip address no atm ilmi-keepalive pvc 0/38 tx-ring-limit 3 encapsulation aal5mux ppp dialer dialer pool-member 1 ! dsl operating-mode auto ! interface FastEthernet0 duplex full speed 100 no cdp enable ! interface FastEthernet1 duplex full speed 100 no cdp enable ! interface FastEthernet2 duplex full speed 100 no cdp enable ! interface FastEthernet3 duplex full speed 100 no cdp enable ! interface Vlan1 ip address 10.10.2.202 255.255.0.0 ip access-group deny_rip in no ip redirects standby 100 ip 10.10.2.200 standby 100 preempt ! interface Dialer0 ip address negotiated ip access-group outside in encapsulation ppp dialer pool 1 ppp chap hostname XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ppp chap password 7 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ! router eigrp 10 network 10.10.0.0 0.0.255.255 network 172.16.0.0 0.0.0.255 distribute-list 2 out Vlan1 no auto-summary ! router rip version 2 no validate-update-source passive-interface Vlan1 network 10.0.0.0 network 172.31.0.0 distribute-list 1 out no auto-summary ! ip route 192.168.120.0 255.255.255.0 10.10.2.254 ip route 192.168.128.0 255.255.255.0 10.10.2.254 ip route 192.168.129.0 255.255.255.0 10.10.2.254 ! ! no ip http server no ip http secure-server ! ip access-list extended deny_rip deny udp host 10.10.2.254 any eq rip permit eigrp any any permit ip any any ip access-list extended outside permit udp 10.250.0.0 0.0.255.255 any eq isakmp permit esp 10.250.0.0 0.0.255.255 any permit gre 10.250.0.0 0.0.255.255 any permit udp 10.250.0.0 0.0.255.255 any eq rip permit ip 10.250.0.0 0.0.255.255 10.10.0.0 0.0.255.255 permit ip 10.250.0.0 0.0.255.255 host 10.250.X.X (WAN IP) permit ip 10.150.1.0 0.0.0.255 10.10.0.0 0.0.255.255 permit icmp any any unreachable permit icmp any any time-exceeded permit icmp any any echo-reply deny ip any any log ! access-list 1 permit 172.31.236.2 access-list 1 permit 10.250.0.0 0.0.255.255 access-list 2 deny 172.16.0.0 0.0.0.255 access-list 2 permit any no cdp run ! ! ! ! control-plane ! banner motd ^CCCCCCC Unauthorised Access Is Strictly Prohibited

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Unauthorised access or activity is a violation of law.

^C ! line con 0 exec-timeout 120 0 logging synchronous no modem enable transport preferred ssh stopbits 1 line aux 0 transport preferred ssh line vty 0 4 access-class 10 in (NB removed from above config) exec-timeout 60 0 transport input telnet ssh ! scheduler max-task-time 5000 ! webvpn context Default_context ssl authenticate verify all ! no inservice ! end

Regards

Darren

Reply to
Darren Green

You will not get and output from debug ip icmp on the 2800 when the traffic is not destined to the 2800 ( ie no forus packets).

You can try using the router alert IP option in the extended ping option whcih forces each router to examine the packet. In this case the debug may display the icmp packets

Reply to
Merv

Does the issue show up if the source of the ping packets is from a PC on the LAN connected to the 877 (i.e. non router sourced packet) ?

Reply to
Merv

Merv,

I will ask the end user to try this for me. I only had access to the router.

It will be about 8hrs before I can respond with the info. I will ask for various size packet responses to see what happens.

Thanks again for all the help.

Regards

Darren

Reply to
Darren Green

Merv,

We managed to resolve it. It was CEF on the DMVPN router (2801). I followed the Pings to the PIX and back. I put an access-list on the outside of the

2801 (between the 2801 & PIX) trapping ICMP to / from a host address behind the remote 877.

I noticed that the access-list count on the 2800 was increasing even though lots of the pings were timing out on the remote 877. This seemed to suggest that the problem was on the 2801. I took CEF off and the pings started flying through.

Answers to your question as follows:

Yes it did. I asked the end user to send various size ping packets and he saw lots of drops with various size packets.

Thanks for your help again with this and taking the time out to respond.

Regards

Darren

Reply to
Darren Green

Suggest you report this problem to Cisco as it really sounds like a bug.

Reply to
Merv

BTW what IOS version is in use on 2800 ?

Reply to
Merv

It was 12.4.6T Advanced IP services off the top of my head. I will double check in the morning and if I am incorrect I will post an update.

Regards

Darren

Reply to
Darren Green

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