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VLAN Question pdyne 03-08-07
Posted by on March 8, 2007, 3:06 pm
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I have a core switch attached to a router on port 1 and it's doing
802.1q tagging and now I've been given a new switch to add to the mix.
Is there a way to make all the ports on this switch part of a VLAN
without having to go to each port and set "switchport access vlan
xxx"? can I someone make it all part of a new VLAN from the connection
between this new switch and the core switch?

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.


Posted by Trendkill on March 8, 2007, 3:13 pm
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On Mar 8, 3:06 pm, p...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have a core switch attached to a router on port 1 and it's doing
> 802.1q tagging and now I've been given a new switch to add to the mix.
> Is there a way to make all the ports on this switch part of a VLAN
> without having to go to each port and set "switchport access vlan
> xxx"? can I someone make it all part of a new VLAN from the connection
> between this new switch and the core switch?
>
> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

I'll take a stab here, although more information would be helpful. I
think by default (definitely could be wrong here) but all ports are
access ports in VLAN 1. If you connect this new switch to the old
switch (presuming the old switch port is configured as an access
port), then all of the ports on the new switch should be members of
the VLAN that is on the port you are connected to. As an example, if
the first switch has a switchport access vlan 100 on port f0/24, you
connect this switch to that port, then all of the ports on the new
switch will be in VLAN 100. As far as the new switch is concerned,
all of the ports are in VLAN 1, but VLAN 1 on the new switch is
connected to VLAN 100 on your core, and therefore it is really VLAN
100 from the core perspective.

If you want to use a new VLAN, then you can create a new vlan on the
core, and use this as the access vlan on port f0/24 and the outcome
will be the same, except all the ports will be on the new VLAN. If
there is any need to have ports on the new switch be in more than one
core-owned network, then you have to configure a trunk between the two
and setup the access ports as you see fit.

Lastly, there are commands to configure ranges.

interface range f0/1-24
switchport mode access
switchport access vlan 2

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/121t/121t5/range.htm


Posted by on March 8, 2007, 3:46 pm
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> On Mar 8, 3:06 pm, p...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > I have a core switch attached to a router on port 1 and it's doing
> > 802.1q tagging and now I've been given a new switch to add to the mix.
> > Is there a way to make all the ports on this switch part of a VLAN
> > without having to go to each port and set "switchport access vlan
> > xxx"? can I someone make it all part of a new VLAN from the connection
> > between this new switch and the core switch?
>
> > Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
>
> I'll take a stab here, although more information would be helpful. I
> think by default (definitely could be wrong here) but all ports are
> access ports in VLAN 1. If you connect this new switch to the old
> switch (presuming the old switch port is configured as an access
> port), then all of the ports on the new switch should be members of
> the VLAN that is on the port you are connected to. As an example, if
> the first switch has a switchport access vlan 100 on port f0/24, you
> connect this switch to that port, then all of the ports on the new
> switch will be in VLAN 100. As far as the new switch is concerned,
> all of the ports are in VLAN 1, but VLAN 1 on the new switch is
> connected to VLAN 100 on your core, and therefore it is really VLAN
> 100 from the core perspective.
>
> If you want to use a new VLAN, then you can create a new vlan on the
> core, and use this as the access vlan on port f0/24 and the outcome
> will be the same, except all the ports will be on the new VLAN. If
> there is any need to have ports on the new switch be in more than one
> core-owned network, then you have to configure a trunk between the two
> and setup the access ports as you see fit.
>
> Lastly, there are commands to configure ranges.
>
> interface range f0/1-24
> switchport mode access
> switchport access vlan 2 switchport access vlan 104
switchport mode access
>
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121ne...

Hi Trend,

That's pretty much what I did. I've assigned on the old switch port
(24) to access mode and access vlan 333.
Now I've attached a PC that has an IP that belongs to VLAN 333 on the
new switch but i can't get to it (from the old or new switch). The
switch mgmt happens to be on the same vlan and i'm able to telnet into
the switch but i can't get to the PC. The only way i've able to ping
the PC is if i set the port where it's connected to (on the new
switch ) to

switchport access vlan 333
switchport mode access

am i missing something here?


Posted by Trendkill on March 8, 2007, 4:26 pm
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On Mar 8, 3:46 pm, p...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Mar 8, 3:06 pm, p...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > I have a core switch attached to a router on port 1 and it's doing
> > > 802.1q tagging and now I've been given a new switch to add to the mix.
> > > Is there a way to make all the ports on this switch part of a VLAN
> > > without having to go to each port and set "switchport access vlan
> > > xxx"? can I someone make it all part of a new VLAN from the connection
> > > between this new switch and the core switch?
>
> > > Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
>
> > I'll take a stab here, although more information would be helpful. I
> > think by default (definitely could be wrong here) but all ports are
> > access ports in VLAN 1. If you connect this new switch to the old
> > switch (presuming the old switch port is configured as an access
> > port), then all of the ports on the new switch should be members of
> > the VLAN that is on the port you are connected to. As an example, if
> > the first switch has a switchport access vlan 100 on port f0/24, you
> > connect this switch to that port, then all of the ports on the new
> > switch will be in VLAN 100. As far as the new switch is concerned,
> > all of the ports are in VLAN 1, but VLAN 1 on the new switch is
> > connected to VLAN 100 on your core, and therefore it is really VLAN
> > 100 from the core perspective.
>
> > If you want to use a new VLAN, then you can create a new vlan on the
> > core, and use this as the access vlan on port f0/24 and the outcome
> > will be the same, except all the ports will be on the new VLAN. If
> > there is any need to have ports on the new switch be in more than one
> > core-owned network, then you have to configure a trunk between the two
> > and setup the access ports as you see fit.
>
> > Lastly, there are commands to configure ranges.
>
> > interface range f0/1-24
> > switchport mode access
> > switchport access vlan 2 switchport access vlan 104
>
> switchport mode access
>
>
>
> >http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121ne...
>
> Hi Trend,
>
> That's pretty much what I did. I've assigned on the old switch port
> (24) to access mode and access vlan 333.
> Now I've attached a PC that has an IP that belongs to VLAN 333 on the
> new switch but i can't get to it (from the old or new switch). The
> switch mgmt happens to be on the same vlan and i'm able to telnet into
> the switch but i can't get to the PC. The only way i've able to ping
> the PC is if i set the port where it's connected to (on the new
> switch ) to
>
> switchport access vlan 333
> switchport mode access
>
> am i missing something here?

If you set the access vlan on the new switch side to 333 also, then
yes you would need to move all the ports to 333. The vlans don't have
to match (I'll refrain from turning this into a best-practices
discussion). Whatever vlan the port on the old switch (that goes to
the new switch) is configured to access, also needs to be the same as
the PCs for it to work. That is why if you left them all on VLAN 1,
it should work. If you did 333 to match, then move them all to 333 or
change the access vlan on that one port back to 1. I hope this makes
sense.


Posted by Trendkill on March 8, 2007, 4:40 pm
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> On Mar 8, 3:46 pm, p...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > > On Mar 8, 3:06 pm, p...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > I have a core switch attached to a router on port 1 and it's doing
> > > > 802.1q tagging and now I've been given a new switch to add to the mix.
> > > > Is there a way to make all the ports on this switch part of a VLAN
> > > > without having to go to each port and set "switchport access vlan
> > > > xxx"? can I someone make it all part of a new VLAN from the connection
> > > > between this new switch and the core switch?
>
> > > > Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
>
> > > I'll take a stab here, although more information would be helpful. I
> > > think by default (definitely could be wrong here) but all ports are
> > > access ports in VLAN 1. If you connect this new switch to the old
> > > switch (presuming the old switch port is configured as an access
> > > port), then all of the ports on the new switch should be members of
> > > the VLAN that is on the port you are connected to. As an example, if
> > > the first switch has a switchport access vlan 100 on port f0/24, you
> > > connect this switch to that port, then all of the ports on the new
> > > switch will be in VLAN 100. As far as the new switch is concerned,
> > > all of the ports are in VLAN 1, but VLAN 1 on the new switch is
> > > connected to VLAN 100 on your core, and therefore it is really VLAN
> > > 100 from the core perspective.
>
> > > If you want to use a new VLAN, then you can create a new vlan on the
> > > core, and use this as the access vlan on port f0/24 and the outcome
> > > will be the same, except all the ports will be on the new VLAN. If
> > > there is any need to have ports on the new switch be in more than one
> > > core-owned network, then you have to configure a trunk between the two
> > > and setup the access ports as you see fit.
>
> > > Lastly, there are commands to configure ranges.
>
> > > interface range f0/1-24
> > > switchport mode access
> > > switchport access vlan 2 switchport access vlan 104
>
> > switchport mode access
>
> > >http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121ne...
>
> > Hi Trend,
>
> > That's pretty much what I did. I've assigned on the old switch port
> > (24) to access mode and access vlan 333.
> > Now I've attached a PC that has an IP that belongs to VLAN 333 on the
> > new switch but i can't get to it (from the old or new switch). The
> > switch mgmt happens to be on the same vlan and i'm able to telnet into
> > the switch but i can't get to the PC. The only way i've able to ping
> > the PC is if i set the port where it's connected to (on the new
> > switch ) to
>
> > switchport access vlan 333
> > switchport mode access
>
> > am i missing something here?
>
> If you set the access vlan on the new switch side to 333 also, then
> yes you would need to move all the ports to 333. The vlans don't have
> to match (I'll refrain from turning this into a best-practices
> discussion). Whatever vlan the port on the old switch (that goes to
> the new switch) is configured to access, also needs to be the same as
> the PCs for it to work. That is why if you left them all on VLAN 1,
> it should work. If you did 333 to match, then move them all to 333 or
> change the access vlan on that one port back to 1. I hope this makes
> sense.

Wait a minute, I got screwed up in my language here. Whatever vlan is
on the NEW Switch, is what the PC ports need to be in....AKA

Switch 1
f0/24
access vlan 333
|
|
access vlan 1
f0/24
Switch 2
|
|
f01-23 should be vlan 1.

If you put f0/24 on new switch in 333, then pc ports must be 333
also. Those ports just have to match the connection that goes to the
old switch.


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