Cisco Systems SPAN and Ingress traffic on 3750

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SPAN and Ingress traffic on 3750 linguafr 06-23-08
Posted by linguafr on June 23, 2008, 6:22 pm
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Should the ingress option allow me to connect to the host on the
destination port with SPAN enabled. It isn't

Session 1
---------
Type : Local Session
Source VLANs :
Both : 7
Destination Ports : Gi1/0/3
Encapsulation : Native
Ingress : Enabled, default VLAN = 321
Ingress encap : Untagged

Posted by Trendkill on June 24, 2008, 11:01 am
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> Should the ingress option allow me to connect to the host on the
> destination port with SPAN enabled. =A0It isn't
>
> Session 1
> ---------
> Type =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : Local Session
> Source VLANs =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 :
> =A0 =A0 Both =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : 7
> Destination Ports =A0 =A0 =A0: Gi1/0/3
> =A0 =A0 Encapsulation =A0 =A0 =A0: Native
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Ingress =A0 =A0 =A0: Enabled, default VLAN =3D 321
> =A0 =A0 Ingress encap : Untagged

Not sure I understand the question. Ingress means that the span port
will also receive regular frames for the access vlan that the span
port is in I think. Generally, you don't connect to the sniffer via
the same port that sniffs, its a receiving port only (or should be).
You use a management interface or second NIC to control the sniffer.
So even if the ingress did work that way, you would have to configure
an IP on that NIC in that VLAN. Could work, but I've never heard of
anyone using a sniffer that way.

Posted by J.Cottingim on June 24, 2008, 8:18 pm
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>
> > Should the ingress option allow me to connect to the host on the
> > destination port with SPAN enabled. =A0It isn't
>
> > Session 1
> > ---------
> > Type =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : Local Session
> > Source VLANs =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 :
> > =A0 =A0 Both =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : 7
> > Destination Ports =A0 =A0 =A0: Gi1/0/3
> > =A0 =A0 Encapsulation =A0 =A0 =A0: Native
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Ingress =A0 =A0 =A0: Enabled, default VLAN =3D 321
> > =A0 =A0 Ingress encap : Untagged
>
> Not sure I understand the question. =A0Ingress means that the span port
> will also receive regular frames for the access vlan that the span
> port is in I think. =A0Generally, you don't connect to the sniffer via
> the same port that sniffs, its a receiving port only (or should be).
> You use a management interface or second NIC to control the sniffer.
> So even if the ingress did work that way, you would have to configure
> an IP on that NIC in that VLAN. =A0Could work, but I've never heard of
> anyone using a sniffer that way.

linguafr,

Trendkill is right... allowing ingress will allow the switch to
receive traffic from the attached "sniffer." However, it looks like
you've spanned the whole VLAN onto an interface. (albeit a gigabit
one)
Traffic from your host may be making it onto the switch - but it may
not have enough bandwidth to receive any responses.
Try the same span, but span only one interface (not a trunk port) on
the VLAN - see if your "sniffer" works. Also, check the port
utilization while spanning the whole VLAN.

By the way, Trendkill - I've used that method in the past - when I
absolutely had to. It works as long as you don't overwhelm the link.
Good Luck.

-JC




Posted by on June 26, 2008, 9:46 am
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Should the ingress option allow me to connect to the host on the
> > > destination port with SPAN enabled. =A0It isn't
>
> > > Session 1
> > > ---------
> > > Type =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : Local Session
> > > Source VLANs =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 :
> > > =A0 =A0 Both =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : 7
> > > Destination Ports =A0 =A0 =A0: Gi1/0/3
> > > =A0 =A0 Encapsulation =A0 =A0 =A0: Native
> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Ingress =A0 =A0 =A0: Enabled, default VLAN =3D 32=
1
> > > =A0 =A0 Ingress encap : Untagged
>
> > Not sure I understand the question. =A0Ingress means that the span port
> > will also receive regular frames for the access vlan that the span
> > port is in I think. =A0Generally, you don't connect to the sniffer via
> > the same port that sniffs, its a receiving port only (or should be).
> > You use a management interface or second NIC to control the sniffer.
> > So even if the ingress did work that way, you would have to configure
> > an IP on that NIC in that VLAN. =A0Could work, but I've never heard of
> > anyone using a sniffer that way.
>
> linguafr,
>
> Trendkill is right... allowing ingress will allow the switch to
> receive traffic from the attached "sniffer." However, it looks like
> you've spanned the whole VLAN onto an interface. (albeit a gigabit
> one)
> Traffic from your host may be making it onto the switch - but it may
> not have enough bandwidth to receive any responses.
> Try the same span, but span only one interface (not a trunk port) on
> the VLAN - see if your "sniffer" works. Also, check the port
> utilization while spanning the whole VLAN.
>
> By the way, Trendkill - I've used that method in the past - when I
> absolutely had to. It works as long as you don't overwhelm the link.
> Good Luck.
>
> -JC- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I have used Ingress frequently however I have found that it
does not seem to actually work on all platforms. More modern
ones dont seem to work.

I think that I have found that it did not work on

4500 SE IV
4500 SE V
6500 SUP 720
3750

May of course be software and other hardware dependent.

I have formed the view that it works on older stuff and not on newer
stuff.

The documentation and command line say that it works.
As far as I can recall.




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