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Campus LAN Core and Perimeter Firewalls njwhitworth 06-12-08
Posted by on June 12, 2008, 9:40 am
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Hi,

I have some design questions regarding Campus networks and firewalls.
If I have a Campus Core consisiting of 2 x L3 switches and I directly
connect an HA pair of perimeter firewalls to each core switch (each
firewall being connected to both core switches), I am unsure how
routing of traffic will work.

The Firewalls use HSRP/VRRP for HA so the connections from the core to
the firewalls must be L2 trunks? Does this mean I would have to create
a VLAN on the core switches and trunk this VLAN across both core
switches? Then both core switches would have a default route of the
HSRP address of the firewalls?

Would it be better to connect the firewalls to the core switches using
L3 connections and run an IGP on the firewalls? How would this work in
practice?

Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated.

Regards,
Nick

Posted by Trendkill on June 12, 2008, 9:52 am
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On Jun 12, 9:40 am, njwhitwo...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have some design questions regarding Campus networks and firewalls.
> If I have a Campus Core consisiting of 2 x L3 switches and I directly
> connect an HA pair of perimeter firewalls to each core switch (each
> firewall being connected to both core switches), I am unsure how
> routing of traffic will work.
>
> The Firewalls use HSRP/VRRP for HA so the connections from the core to
> the firewalls must be L2 trunks? Does this mean I would have to create
> a VLAN on the core switches and trunk this VLAN across both core
> switches? Then both core switches would have a default route of the
> HSRP address of the firewalls?
>
> Would it be better to connect the firewalls to the core switches using
> L3 connections and run an IGP on the firewalls? How would this work in
> practice?
>
> Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Nick

Create two networks, trunked between your cores. Have each firewall
connect to each core, but in each different vlan. Then your
connections from firewall to core will not be trunks but simple access
ports.

Firewall 1 Connection 1 - Core 1 Vlan 1
Firewall 1 Connection 2 - Core 2 Vlan 2
Firewall 2 Connection 1 - Core 1 Vlan 1
Firewall 2 Connection 2 - core 2 Vlan 2

This way if a core dies, you still have both firewalls connected to
the other core in the same VLAN.

From a routing perspective, you should have a routing protocol running
between the firewalls and the cores in those specific vlans. That way
traffic will re-route if their are issues. Else you put 2 statics on
each core for internet/default gateway presuming that is what this is
for. But yes, both cores should have a route to the HSRP address in
each vlan.

I think this should answer your questions. Only other way is to do
both of firewall 1's connections to core 1, in diff vlans, and
firewall 2 to core 2. But in that case, if a core experienced issues
(or the trunk in between), your firewalls would stop seeing each
other, which you probably don't want. What you want is your firewalls
to ALWAYS see each other regardless of type of outage, not necessarily
that just one is always up.

Posted by WERBER on June 12, 2008, 4:26 pm
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> On Jun 12, 9:40 am, njwhitwo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I have some design questions regarding Campus networks and firewalls.
> > If I have a Campus Core consisiting of 2 x L3 switches and I directly
> > connect an HA pair of perimeter firewalls to each core switch (each
> > firewall being connected to both core switches), I am unsure how
> > routing of traffic will work.
>
> > The Firewalls use HSRP/VRRP for HA so the connections from the core to
> > the firewalls must be L2 trunks? Does this mean I would have to create
> > a VLAN on the core switches and trunk this VLAN across both core
> > switches? Then both core switches would have a default route of the
> > HSRP address of the firewalls?
>
> > Would it be better to connect the firewalls to the core switches using
> > L3 connections and run an IGP on the firewalls? How would this work in
> > practice?
>
> > Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated.
>
> > Regards,
> > Nick
>
> Create two networks, trunked between your cores. =A0Have each firewall
> connect to each core, but in each different vlan. =A0Then your
> connections from firewall to core will not be trunks but simple access
> ports.
>
> Firewall 1 Connection 1 - Core 1 Vlan 1
> Firewall 1 Connection 2 - Core 2 Vlan 2
> Firewall 2 Connection 1 - Core 1 Vlan 1
> Firewall 2 Connection 2 - core 2 Vlan 2
>
> This way if a core dies, you still have both firewalls connected to
> the other core in the same VLAN.
>
> From a routing perspective, you should have a routing protocol running
> between the firewalls and the cores in those specific vlans. =A0That way
> traffic will re-route if their are issues. =A0Else you put 2 statics on
> each core for internet/default gateway presuming that is what this is
> for. =A0But yes, both cores should have a route to the HSRP address in
> each vlan.
>
> I think this should answer your questions. =A0Only other way is to do
> both of firewall 1's connections to core 1, in diff vlans, and
> firewall 2 to core 2. =A0But in that case, if a core experienced issues
> (or the trunk in between), your firewalls would stop seeing each
> other, which you probably don't want. =A0What you want is your firewalls
> to ALWAYS see each other regardless of type of outage, not necessarily
> that just one is always up.- Ocultar texto entre aspas -
>
> - Mostrar texto entre aspas -

If all equipment work in L3, just use routes, is more fast the
convergence, balance the charge and you don=B4t need work with
problematics protocols, likes STP, MSTP, RSTP.


Werberti Luiz

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