Cisco Systems BGP and OSPF Asymmetry

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BGP and OSPF Asymmetry Darren Green 09-05-08
Posted by Darren Green on September 5, 2008, 8:28 am
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I have a network where I have traffic coming in from various AS No's
into a Core AS call it AS 100.

At the bottom end I have 2 x links out of AS 100 into a Co-Lo using a
private AS 65001. All remote AS's have to traverse AS 100 to reach my
Co-Lo.

In my Co-Lo I have 4 x routers. The WAN element (2 x routers) connects
AS65001 to AS100. On the inside of my WAN routers I have LAN
connections to a pair of 6509's (one is active for all HSRP
addresses). The connections between WAN and LAN devices are crossed
over so each WAN router connects to each 6509. These connections are
configured as /30 links. There is no iBGP internally just equal cost
path OSPF links.

My problem is that OSPF is set to load share traffic back out to the
remote locations. As traffic can come in down either WAN link, how can
I get OSPF to route it back the same way.

I need a way to tag routes coming into AS100 differently based on my
own scheme but route-maps don=92t allow this. How can I ensure that OSPF
understands which BGP route my traffic has entered on, to allow it to
route back the same way. If I can=92t find the answer I will just have
to live with the probability of asymmetric traffic.

Regards

Darren

Posted by fugettaboutit on September 5, 2008, 10:19 am
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Darren Green wrote:
> I have a network where I have traffic coming in from various AS No's
> into a Core AS call it AS 100.
>
> At the bottom end I have 2 x links out of AS 100 into a Co-Lo using a
> private AS 65001. All remote AS's have to traverse AS 100 to reach my
> Co-Lo.
>
> In my Co-Lo I have 4 x routers. The WAN element (2 x routers) connects
> AS65001 to AS100. On the inside of my WAN routers I have LAN
> connections to a pair of 6509's (one is active for all HSRP
> addresses). The connections between WAN and LAN devices are crossed
> over so each WAN router connects to each 6509. These connections are
> configured as /30 links. There is no iBGP internally just equal cost
> path OSPF links.
>
> My problem is that OSPF is set to load share traffic back out to the
> remote locations. As traffic can come in down either WAN link, how can
> I get OSPF to route it back the same way.
>
> I need a way to tag routes coming into AS100 differently based on my
> own scheme but route-maps don’t allow this. How can I ensure that OSPF
> understands which BGP route my traffic has entered on, to allow it to
> route back the same way. If I can’t find the answer I will just have
> to live with the probability of asymmetric traffic.
>
> Regards
>
> Darren

Maybe I don't have a full picture of what you're doing, but does the
asymmetry matter? Are you transporting voice traffic? If I understand,
you want the internal WAN links to send the return packets of a given
flow over the same ingress pipe (from the co-lo's perspective). I'd say
that if it is an issue of transporting traffic that would be sensitive
to reordering, perhaps ensuring per-flow switching would be the way to
go. Otherwise, I'm not sure worrying about the return trip is an issue
unless you have some other management policy you need to adhere to, or
as I just mentioned, packet reordering (non-TCP) is of concern

Sorry if I totally misunderstood the issue!

Good Luck!


Posted by Darren Green on September 5, 2008, 4:50 pm
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>>
>> I need a way to tag routes coming into AS100 differently based on my
>> own scheme but route-maps don’t allow this. How can I ensure that OSPF
>> understands which BGP route my traffic has entered on, to allow it to
>> route back the same way. If I can’t find the answer I will just have
>> to live with the probability of asymmetric traffic.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Darren
>
> Maybe I don't have a full picture of what you're doing, but does the
> asymmetry matter? Are you transporting voice traffic? If I understand,
> you want the internal WAN links to send the return packets of a given
> flow over the same ingress pipe (from the co-lo's perspective). I'd say
> that if it is an issue of transporting traffic that would be sensitive
> to reordering, perhaps ensuring per-flow switching would be the way to
> go. Otherwise, I'm not sure worrying about the return trip is an issue
> unless you have some other management policy you need to adhere to, or
> as I just mentioned, packet reordering (non-TCP) is of concern
>
> Sorry if I totally misunderstood the issue!
>
> Good Luck!
>

Thanks for the response.

You were spot on in your understanding. I had sort of got to the point
that the asymmetric traffic would be OK, I suppose many networks have
such an element anyway. Just wanted to avoid it if possible.

There is no voice at present but there is some Citrix which I believe
will be OK in this type of environment. If voice comes along I will
likely do some prepending and OSPF manipulation to ensure that the
traffic routes in and out the way I want it.

Kind regards

Darren

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