Cisco Systems ASA Question regarding VLANS and Firewalls.

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ASA Question regarding VLANS and Firewalls. Knutts 07-25-08
Posted by Knutts on July 25, 2008, 12:33 pm
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I have a client that runs a managed office for 90 or so companies. The
plan is to run each company on its own vlan using 3750 switches. The
question is the firewall. Can you apply seperate fiewall policies on
an ASA5520 to each vlan or will they need to be logically grouped?
Also can you mix NAT'ed traffic and pass through because some
companies will just require an internet connection where as other will
have their own servers/services that will require provision of a
public ip. Any help much appreciated.

Posted by Scott Perry on July 25, 2008, 4:03 pm
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The ASA firewall can connect to the various VLANs on the switches using an
ethernet trunk connection.

This single cable connection, usually shown as just one logical interface in
the configuration, can have many logical sub-interfaces configured. With
this many VLANs present, look into product specifications on the public
sections of the Cisco website to evaluate the capabilities of these device
models. You may end up considering a different model of the ASA firewall,
depending on your needs.

I foresee a concern with having that many sub-interfaces when it comes to
security-levels in the configuration. Numeric security levels from 0 to 100
are assigned to these logical interfaces to specify levels of protection
from traffic from other interfaces. A configuration feature is available to
not explicitly allow traffic between interfaces of the same security level.
Without that feature, and with each logical interface numerically assigned a
different security level number, traffic would be more easily able to pass
from higher security interfaces with higher security level numbers to lower
security interfaces with lower security level numbers. This would present
concerns between the networks of the client companies.

The Cisco 3750 switch is a layer 3 switch capable of routing and therefore
can filter network traffic. Look into methods of filtering network traffic
using access-lists on the 3750 as well. Although a firewall is more
hardened and secure, a workable method of prohibiting network traffic can be
reached when dealing with the inside networks. The firewall is still the
best choice between all of the inside networks and the Internet. This
solution, by providing network traffic filtering on the 3750, might allowing
a smaller and less expensive model of ASA firewall for the Internet
connection. I suggest this because it seems that whenever security or
traffic filtering is a topic, firewalls come up more often while suitable
classic access-lists solutions are not as often considered.


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Scott Perry
Indianapolis, IN
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>I have a client that runs a managed office for 90 or so companies. The
> plan is to run each company on its own vlan using 3750 switches. The
> question is the firewall. Can you apply seperate fiewall policies on
> an ASA5520 to each vlan or will they need to be logically grouped?
> Also can you mix NAT'ed traffic and pass through because some
> companies will just require an internet connection where as other will
> have their own servers/services that will require provision of a
> public ip. Any help much appreciated.



Posted by Walter Roberson on July 27, 2008, 10:16 pm
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>I have a client that runs a managed office for 90 or so companies. The
>plan is to run each company on its own vlan using 3750 switches. The
>question is the firewall. Can you apply seperate fiewall policies on
>an ASA5520 to each vlan or will they need to be logically grouped?

If the public traffic for the various companies is not to be mixed,
then you would need 90 outside VLANs and 90 inside VLANs -- and
the 5520 definitely cannot handle 180 VLANs.

What you are describing is closer to having 90 different
"security contexts". Security contexts are expensive on the ASA 55xx
series, and I'm relatively sure that the 5520 cannot handle anywhere
even close to 90 of them. My recollection is that the highest end
ASA 55xx model cannot handle even close to 90 security contexts.
(I don't recall about the firewall module for the 6500 series switches;
I believe 90 is too much for it as well.)

I would never trust the connections of 90 companies to a single
ASA, or even an ASA in failover. I might trust the health of several
companies together on an ASA, but the single-point-of-failure
risk is just way too high in putting 90 companies on a single device,
in my opinion.

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