Possible to get CCIE by self study?

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I've been an assistant net admin for the last 6 years. I'd like to expand my
knowledge, highten my job security and, yes, increase my marketability. The
shop that I work in has Cisco products(Catalyst 5509 and a PIX Firewall),
but we outsource all of our support. They have no interest in paying for my
Cisco training. Is it possible to attain CCIE through self study and
practice alone? Has anyone here done that? If so, can you give a poor guy
like me some tips? I'd appreciate any info.. Thanks.

-Gerrick




Possible to get CCIE by self study?
I've been an assistant net admin for the last 6 years. I'd like to expand my
knowledge, highten my job security and, yes, increase my marketability. The
shop that I work in has Cisco products(Catalyst 5509 and a PIX Firewall),
but we outsource all of our support. They have no interest in paying for my
Cisco training. Is it possible to attain CCIE through self study and
practice alone? Has anyone here done that? If so, can you give a poor guy
like me some tips? I'd appreciate any info.. Thanks.

-Gerrick



Re: Possible to get CCIE by self study?
I'm currently enrolled in the Cisco Network Academy for a shop/elective
class in high school.

The topic has come up a few times, and it is possible, but rather hard.

The one thing I do want to point out is that your certification expires
every three years, if I remember correctly. The CCIE exam is by far the
hardest, and you'd be spending most of your time studying for next year.

But yes, with alot of time and effort, I'd say it's possible to do it.

-- Chris

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Re: Possible to get CCIE by self study?
If you have enough money to get hands on the real gear or practice labs
sure.
There are lots of things in the real world that the CCIE doesnt cover,
but if you have some decent experience it should fill in the gaps.
Be prepared to give up a year of your life basically. Nights and
weekends become lab time, and the month before your labs you may have to
take a few days off work to get up to speed. Its that involved. Not
impossible but demanding.



GerrickPeters wrote:
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Re: Possible to get CCIE by self study?
Thanks for the info.. I understand the need for hands on experience. Like I
said, we only have a Cisco switch and a firewall at my shop. How do I go
about finding the necessary equipment to work on? I don't have enough money
to buy real gear. Where can I find practice labs? Thanks again for the
info..

-Gerrick

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Re: Possible to get CCIE by self study?
Hi Gerrick,

I concur that you can pass without employer support. It will cost you
more time and money, but certainly possible.

You need to seek out a few things:

  1. Cisco Press books like TCP/IP Routing Volume I, Internet Routing
    Architectures, Quality of Service, Caslow, etc. ($300)

  2. Cisco Universe CD, available online ($0)

  3. A book of lab scenarios ($300). Three popular ones are:
    NetMasterClass, IP Expert, CC Bootcamp

  4. Rack time. $30-$35/session is a fair rate. Make sure they have
    3550 Catalysts and 4+ routers. Google: CCIE rack rent
    For 12 sessions, you're looking at $350.

$300 + $300 + $350 = $950; you'll need a little more than that for the
actual exams. Used / outdated materials cost less.

The time it requires is largely dependent on your knowledge and
experience. If you regularly troubleshoot service provider networks, I
would expect much less than a year. If you don't have a CCNP or
equivalent knowledge, I would expect much more than a year.

Good luck!

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 04:38:02 GMT, "GerrickPeters"

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Re: Possible to get CCIE by self study?
ccie RS lab exam just need 3550 swithc and 2620 router
I think you just need enough time and money,then you will pass the ccie exam
You can just do it!
my friend even have passed three ccie certification: RS,ISP,Security

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Re: Possible to get CCIE by self study?

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I've heard just taking the written exams and lab tests could cost up to $20k
alone.

Do you have a college degree?  I think that would be of much more value.

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Re: Possible to get CCIE by self study?
Yeah, I have a BS in MIS and Business. It cost me a little over $40K and 4
years. I paid my loans off in about 5 years after I graduated. I just know
of CISCO engineers without any secondary education making about 3 times my
salary.

-Gerrick

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Someone steered you wrong:

http://tcpmag.com/salarysurveys/article.asp?EditorialsID=204

    $2,000    : Average amount spent studying
    $1,550    : Exam cost
    -----------------------------
    $3,550

    $   950    : Minimum / efficient study plan
    $1,550    : Exam Cost
    -----------------------------
    $2,500

I know at least a dozen CCIEs, and none of them spent over $6,000. I'm
sure you could spend more, but most people don't.

Re: Possible to get CCIE by self study?
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 04:38:02 GMT, "GerrickPeters"

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Probably not if you buy new... however, ebay is a good source.  Just
make sure what you're bidding on is what you're looking for.


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