I need more advice from the pro's

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I had a tentative plan to start studying right away for the CCNET,
hopefully get a job..any job...then continue with CCNA.

Then I was going to attack the Information Security program at Devry:
http://www.devry.edu/keller/programs/information_security/courses.jsp

I spoke with that advisor at Devry again.
I told her my plan, and she thinks I should chuck the CCNET/CCNA and
get started in their info security program right away (of course she
does).

My point was, I can hopefully get a job with the CCNET, and then work
on the security degree while I had a job.

Her point is, just having the fact that I'm pursuing their degree is
great on a resume.

My point was, just being enrolled in a program doesn't mean that you
actually know how to DO the stuff...right?  If that were they case, I
could have got an engineering job before getting my engineering
degree.

Anyway, do you have any clue how long I should expect it to take to
get the CCNET if I'm not currently working, and it's my priority?

And does she have any valid point about being enrolled in a program
and thinking that will help get me a job?  Unless of course the first
course on the list (an 8-week course) would be enough to get me in the
door somewhere.

Looking for advice, here.

Re: I need more advice from the pro's
Get your certification on your own this summer and then enroll in an
associate degree program at some acredited local community college for
information technology for this fall.  Acredited community colleges and
universities allow you to transfer classes and credits.
Those small training schools do not and cost a lot more.  As for the quality
of their education, it has yet to be proven.  I prefer the instructors hired
and retained by a larger institution like a college than the instructors
hired by a struggling training company.
Depending on which accredited college which you decide to attend, they will
very likely have classes that you can skip by showing proof of your
certification.  It is cheaper and does not make you double some of your work
in the classroom.  Spending your time and money at some learning institute
that cannot transfer your credits to a university or other college is a real
waste.  When you tire of being a grunt in the IT field and want to get a
bachelor's degree to make your last 10, 20, or 30 years of employment more
benficial, you will hate yourself for going to an institue which does not
transfer classes and credits to a 4 year college or university.

I have seen someone with a PC and server background pick up a CCNA in 3
months.  In this case, they actually commited one evening of their time each
week without exception, did not have to pay for anything other than their
book, and passed on their 2nd try.  The CCNA can be picked up in time for a
fall college semester to start.

As for this "information security" title, I would not value that more than a
regular "information technology" title.  Sure, you sound more security
oriented, but you also sound more "pidgeon-holed" or unable to broaden into
other positions.  At least a broad information technology title can
understand firewalls and security appliances while also knowing the rest of
the field.

If you want to get a job, it might be a lot better to get the CCNA and state
that you are enrolled and attending a degree program.

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Scott Perry
Indianapolis, IN
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Re: I need more advice from the pro's
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:03:54 -0400, "Scott Perry"

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It might be worth something if it works towards something like CISSP
or another independent security accreditation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CISSP

ask them what comes out the other end, and then hunt up the acronyms.
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Great, great advice.  thanks for that!
I'm really looking forward to starting.

Of course now I'm getting cynics telling me to avoid the entire field
because it sucks, no upward mobility, etc.

But I know from experience that once I decide and apply myself, i
excel.  So I don't consider myself average when it comes to learning
and moving forward.

I do, however, consider myself to totally suck at typing. Something
I've meant to address for, oh, I don't know, 30 years.  :)

This may be a good time to buy Mavis Beacon.

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