CCNP or CCSP? Advice needed.

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Greetings all:

I just finished my CCNA, and I want to start on the professional level
courses.

By far it seems most people go after a CCNP.  That all looks fascinating,
but I've been considering the CCSP because I have some experience writing
security policy and auditing security events.  It's also a subject that
interests me.

My problem is that I see a TON of books, trial test software, online
courses, blogs, all about the courses in the CCNP track, but almost none out
there for CCSP.

Are there any CCSP's out there?  Does anyone know of good sites, blogs, or
other aids that would get me through if I went after this one?

I'd hate to start it and find out I only had a few dry Cisco Press books to
work from.

Ingot



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I was having the same doubt, but I was adviced to get done CCNP first,
then CCSP. So, now I'm preparing myself for CCNP using Authorized
Self-Study Guide (Cisco Press), CCNP curicullum, Train Signal Video
Mentor and GNS3 for labs.

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That's very helpful, thank you.

I'm really stuck on this one, it's a puzzle.  I may just go look at the two
textbooks they use, and make my decision based on which one seems to be the
better read.

Can I ask WHY they advised you to get the CCNP first?  Is it that the CCSP
concepts are easier to understand once you've been through the CCNP
certification?

Ingot



Re: CCNP or CCSP? Advice needed.
The CCNP stands alone in its progression of knowledge and topics.  The CCSP
builds off of material in the CCNP, just like the CCVP and CCIP.

The CCNP covers switching, routing, remote access, and optimization/support.
This is the core set of fundamentals in the world of data networking.

Learning how to secure and network, use VPN, and tune device configuration
takes a bit of understanding how a router, switch, or WAN/LAN topology
works.  The same goes for implementing voice systems in the CCVP track.

For those who would argue otherwise, they can conclude that a person can
lock-down a router/switch and configure a VPN without fully knowing how a
router or switch works.  This may be true if the implementor is working only
within very controlled guidelines on a device pre-configured for them.

Learn how the equipment works in the CCNP track then work your way to
whichever other certification you choose.  This is not Cisco's requirement,
it is only a recommendation.

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Indianapolis, IN
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As Scott told you, if you want to understand advanced security
concepts, you have to understand network fundamentals first, which is
routing and switching. As I figured, CCNP covers some basic security
and VoIP concepts, so I guess it's a good idea to finish CCNP first.
Tons of Cisco Press' books from the link I send you can help a bit.
Try to find some video mentors (CBT Nuggets and/or Train Signal). I
use Train Signal and I find it very useful for self-studying, much
better then Cisco Press' CCNP Video Mentor (probably because English
language isn't my mother tongue and the Train Signal's instructor
speaks slower).

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