Cisco Certification Re: Using SSH to connect to a Catalyst 1900 switch

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Re: Using SSH to connect to a Catalyst 1900 switch Doug McIntyre 11-15-07
Posted by Doug McIntyre on November 15, 2007, 1:57 pm
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>Yeah I'm starting to gather that. I'm studying for my CCNA & I inherited
>the lab I'm using from a friend who did his CCNA a few years ago. Much of
>the syntax also differs quite a lot from the Catalyst 2960 that my study
>book uses to give examples, which is quite frustrating; can you recommend
>something more modern that I might be able to pick up on eBay fairly
>cheaply?

Nobody is going to test on a 1900/2800. They are just too old, and
have fallen way off the radar for anybody.

A WS-C2950-xx is extremly close to the 2960 in features and configuration.
Its only been EOL'd fairly recent (announcement for the general line
on Oct 22, 2007), so it hasn't gone down in cost too much on eBay, but
what are you talking about fairly cheap? A WS-C2950-24 is going for $230
buy-it-now on eBay. Several auctions start in the $30 range, but I
suspect the 24 ports get up closer to higher $1xx range. I saw some of
the 12-porters going for $105/$107 auction wins.

For a CCNA lab, I'd pick up a WS-C2950-12, which will be close enough
to the 2960 in the book for all purposes. You can figure out the rest from
here I'm sure.

The generation after the 1900/2800 is the 29xx goes for cheaper, but
the differences will be greater (not quite as great as the 1900/2800 though).
They go for $50 (WS-C2924XL-EN-24). For the extra $50, I'd get the 2950
for your lab work. It'll be alot closer to what you'll be tested on.





Posted by Nick Fotis on November 17, 2007, 4:39 pm
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Doug McIntyre wrote:

> The generation after the 1900/2800 is the 29xx goes for cheaper, but
> the differences will be greater (not quite as great as the 1900/2800
> though). They go for $50 (WS-C2924XL-EN-24). For the extra $50, I'd get
> the 2950 for your lab work. It'll be alot closer to what you'll be tested
> on.

Because I am not very conversant with the Catalysts, what are the major
differences between the 2950-24 and the 2950-24XL?

Regards,
N.Fotis

Posted by Doug McIntyre on November 18, 2007, 1:01 am
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>Doug McIntyre wrote:

>> The generation after the 1900/2800 is the 29xx goes for cheaper, but
>> the differences will be greater (not quite as great as the 1900/2800
>> though). They go for $50 (WS-C2924XL-EN-24). For the extra $50, I'd get
>> the 2950 for your lab work. It'll be alot closer to what you'll be tested
>> on.

>Because I am not very conversant with the Catalysts, what are the major
>differences between the 2950-24 and the 2950-24XL?

Umm, 2950-24XL? Did you misquote my part # 2924XL ??

No such thing as a 2950-24XL.

The main thing to realize is a 2924XL latest IOS rev is 12.1, and
hasn't been updated in ~5 years or so.

The newer 2950/2960 run IOS rev 12.2, and have had newer features
added over the years. Since the 2950 was just EOL'd, it'll have
current version of IOS for it.

Many commands behave differently between the two, especially with
reguard to VLANs, trunking, supports dynamic trunking, and general management.
The 2950/2960's web GUI will be vastly improved over the 2924xl's.
Most people that I've seen touch the web GUI for the 2924xl delete it
and never bother with it later. I've seen people actually use the one
for the 2950/2960 switches..

The QoS support is different (but thats not too surprising, QoS is way
different on just about every Cisco switch platform).

Otherwise, in terms of being 24-port managable switches, they are
comparable in feature set, just ways of doing things are slightly
different, especially troubleshooting trunking issues.

But the original thread was on certification learning, and since they
are testing on the 2960, and you should really learn on hardware
released within the last 5 years or so...

Posted by Mark Holbrook on November 29, 2007, 7:47 pm
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Doug McIntyre wrote:
>> Doug McIntyre wrote:
>

[snip]

> The newer 2950/2960 run IOS rev 12.2, and have had newer features
> added over the years. Since the 2950 was just EOL'd, it'll have
> current version of IOS for it.

Quick clarification - While I do believe that the 2960 does run IOS 12.2
(much like the 3550, 3560, and 3750 series), the 2950's only run on IOS
12.1.

Also, the 2900xl and 3500xl switches run IOS 12.0 - while it is pretty
old by today's standards, the 2900xl's will get you by relatively well
if you can't afford the 2950s. Definitely stick to the lower port
density switches unless you have a particular need for them. A word of
caution though, is that Cisco does differentiate feature-wise between
their enterprise and standard image software switches. Without getting
into too much detail, you'll generally want the enterprise version of
software, however for CCNA level studying I suppose the standard image
switches would do what you need for that particular exam.

>
> Many commands behave differently between the two, especially with
> reguard to VLANs, trunking, supports dynamic trunking, and general management.
> The 2950/2960's web GUI will be vastly improved over the 2924xl's.
> Most people that I've seen touch the web GUI for the 2924xl delete it
> and never bother with it later. I've seen people actually use the one
> for the 2950/2960 switches..

Amen on trashing the web gui. It looks pretty, but that's about it.

>
> The QoS support is different (but thats not too surprising, QoS is way
> different on just about every Cisco switch platform).

Agreed, I've gotten burned by this when trying to implement commands
from a 3550 onto a 3560. Had to relearn how to do it on the 3560 and
there were some gotchas.

regards,

Mark Holbrook, CCNP



Posted by Aubrey Adams on November 18, 2007, 11:48 pm
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>>Yeah I'm starting to gather that. I'm studying for my CCNA & I inherited
>>the lab I'm using from a friend who did his CCNA a few years ago. Much of
>>the syntax also differs quite a lot from the Catalyst 2960 that my study
>>book uses to give examples, which is quite frustrating; can you recommend
>>something more modern that I might be able to pick up on eBay fairly
>>cheaply?
>
> Nobody is going to test on a 1900/2800. They are just too old, and
> have fallen way off the radar for anybody.
>
>

2800 fallen off the radar?

The 1900/2500 lab bundles maybe.

Replaced by the 2900/2600 combo.

Today the 2950 or 2960 and 1841 or 2811 are the go, althought later 2600s
are still very useful fro CCNA study.

Aubrey




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