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standard files formats..? Fred* 11-01-06
Posted by Fred* on November 1, 2006, 1:20 am
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Hello,
I'm just beginning to work on a new personnal project that could eventually
lead me to write a schematic editor. well, I know it's a complex task and I
know that I won't have enough time to go to the end, but the goal is to
learn new things in a pleasant way and that will just do it. and for now,
I'm just collecting infos on different subjects.

so my question here is about the files formats used most currently for
netlists and for schematic components library.
I did several searches and found different things for netlists about EDIF
that is standardized, but I will have to pay to have the documentations (I
will have a look to see if I can find a book at a correct price).

there's also the PADS-PCB format wich seems to be simpler and recognized by
many softwares and for wich I already found more infos.

and the PSPICE format for wich there is infos anywhere..

so, is there now some different files formats that I should consider..?
does the EDIF format have many improvement compare to the PADS-PCB one..?


I didn't made many searches yet about schematic library file format.. is it
the Orcad file format that is find more currently on component makers
webpages or is there others ones..? (I also see Cadence, Mentor, AXEL on
Texas Instruments pages..).

Thanks ..
Fred



Posted by Fred* on November 1, 2006, 1:37 am
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>
> and the PSPICE format for wich there is infos anywhere..
>

well, I'm also still learning English language (I'm French). think I should
have said "everywhere" here, instead of "anywhere"..
Sorry.



Posted by JeffM on November 1, 2006, 3:43 am
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Fred* wrote:
>I'm just beginning to work on a new personnal project
>that could eventually lead me to write a schematic editor.
>
Will we see it on SourceForge?
...or are you trying to make a buck of off this?

When I see you reinvent-the-wheel types,
I always want to ask, "Have you investigated gEDA and KiCAD?
Is there something in their philosophies
that makes you want to start from zero
instead of contributing to a project with momentum?"

>[...]so my question here is about the [file] formats
>I[...]found different things for netlists about EDIF that is standardized,
>but I will have to pay to have the [documentation]
>
It appears that the ECAD industry grudgingly assembled a "standard"
then did everything they could to assure its death.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/b20fcdf704044b8b/41b2d61a68924dfc?q=*-*-created-by-*-*-COMMITTEE+*-*-almost-the-same-effort+they-all-think-*-they're-Microsoft+*-Software-companies-don't-want-you-*-*-*-to-translate-between-tools+zzz+*-nasty-cost+3rd-party-*+turf-battle+Pulsonix-*-*-*-*-*-EDIF

>does the EDIF format have many [improvements]
>
Perhaps you meant to use *advantages* there.
I haven't ever used a package that supports EDIF,
but the *interchange* thing seems appealing.

:Fred* wrote:
:I'm also still learning [the] English language (I'm French)
:
Yes, the singular/plural thing still needs work
--but I've seen worse from folks
for whom English is ostensibly their native language.

An old thing I like:
If you speak 3 languages, you're trilingual.
If you speak 2 languages, you're bilingual.
If you speak 1 language, you're American.


Posted by Fred* on November 1, 2006, 5:59 am
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Hello,
well, I surely don't want to reinvent the wheel. as I said, that's
essentialy for learning purpose (I'm coming back to Windows programming,with
C# and as I didn't find a schematic software that really please me...).
and there will probably never be something visible from this work, free or
not.. (but of course if I got something to show it will be free and probably
open source).
I have many things to learn or remember before being able to really
contribute to an existing open source project. and if I can do the
different things I want to try, I could re-use my work for example to make a
file importer/converter (for netlists or schematics) for an existing
project..

and I know gEDA, KiCAD, FreePCB, TinyCAD, SCORE,..
I like SCORE, but it's still in early development (I tried to contact the
developer, but his email is always full and rejecting new mail.. will try
again later).


concerning your link about EDIF, that's reflecting what I already found
about it.. :-(

Thanks.
Fred.



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