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data interchange format for board layout? larry 07-31-08
Posted by on July 31, 2008, 7:33 pm
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Is there a data interchange format in the circuit board layout
industry comparable to DXF in the mechanical CAD world?

I use Gnu PCB for my company's designs, but I'm getting into a
collaborative project with another guy who uses Mentor Graphics. I
want to lay out my part of the design and pass that to my client, who
will add the analog parts and get the whole board fabbed.

If we were collaborating on the enclosure, we could use DXF as the
interchange format.

Is there any comparable, common format in the world of PCB layout?

Posted by Joerg on July 31, 2008, 8:17 pm
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larry@gluelogix.com wrote:
> Is there a data interchange format in the circuit board layout
> industry comparable to DXF in the mechanical CAD world?
>
> I use Gnu PCB for my company's designs, but I'm getting into a
> collaborative project with another guy who uses Mentor Graphics. I
> want to lay out my part of the design and pass that to my client, who
> will add the analog parts and get the whole board fabbed.
>
> If we were collaborating on the enclosure, we could use DXF as the
> interchange format.
>
> Is there any comparable, common format in the world of PCB layout?


Nope :-(

All you have is the common Gerber format for the final product.

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Posted by on July 31, 2008, 9:27 pm
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wrote:
>
> Nope :-(
>
> All you have is the common Gerber format for the final product.
>
Ok then. Thanks,
Larry

Posted by JeffM on July 31, 2008, 10:03 pm
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la...@gluelogix.com wrote:
> Is there a data interchange format in the circuit board layout
> industry comparable to DXF in the mechanical CAD world?
>
> I use Gnu PCB for my company's designs, but I'm getting into a
> collaborative project with another guy who uses Mentor Graphics. I
> want to lay out my part of the design and pass that to my client, who
> will add the analog parts and get the whole board fabbed.
>
> If we were collaborating on the enclosure, we could use DXF as the
> interchange format.
>
> Is there any comparable, common format in the world of PCB layout?

Brad Velander gave the best explanation of this I've seen:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/f85d28a336c67dae/7a528d64a1391bbb?q=*-*-have-equivalents-in-*-other-packages+supports+magical.tool+doesn't+flawed+limitations-*-what-will-import-successfully+retrieve-data+*-*-*-limited-*-list-of-compatible-versions+zz-zz+qq-qq+exist

Another good thread on this:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/b20fcdf704044b8b/b6849e452e463026?q=*-*-created-by-*-*-COMMITTEE+*-*-almost-the-same-effort-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+they-all-think-*-they're-Microsoft+*-Software-companies-don't-want-you-*-*-*-to-translate-between-tools+zzz+*-nasty-cost+3rd-party-*+turf-battle

Here's what could have (and SHOULD have) been:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/afc5007ff80f869a/591354e47bc759d4?q=*-*-*-good-one+ODF+a-standard-format+proprietary+*-bugs-me+a.protocol+National-Bureau-*-*+magic-*+zzz+*-*-*-*-send-documents-to-*-government-*-*-*-*
.
.
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SUBSCRIBING to the groups where you post
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Posted by Joerg on August 1, 2008, 2:06 pm
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JeffM wrote:
> la...@gluelogix.com wrote:
>> Is there a data interchange format in the circuit board layout
>> industry comparable to DXF in the mechanical CAD world?
>>
>> I use Gnu PCB for my company's designs, but I'm getting into a
>> collaborative project with another guy who uses Mentor Graphics. I
>> want to lay out my part of the design and pass that to my client, who
>> will add the analog parts and get the whole board fabbed.
>>
>> If we were collaborating on the enclosure, we could use DXF as the
>> interchange format.
>>
>> Is there any comparable, common format in the world of PCB layout?
>
> Brad Velander gave the best explanation of this I've seen:
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/f85d28a336c67dae/7a528d64a1391bbb?q=*-*-have-equivalents-in-*-other-packages+supports+magical.tool+doesn't+flawed+limitations-*-what-will-import-successfully+retrieve-data+*-*-*-limited-*-list-of-compatible-versions+zz-zz+qq-qq+exist
>
> Another good thread on this:
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/b20fcdf704044b8b/b6849e452e463026?q=*-*-created-by-*-*-COMMITTEE+*-*-almost-the-same-effort-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+they-all-think-*-they're-Microsoft+*-Software-companies-don't-want-you-*-*-*-to-translate-between-tools+zzz+*-nasty-cost+3rd-party-*+turf-battle
>
> Here's what could have (and SHOULD have) been:
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/afc5007ff80f869a/591354e47bc759d4?q=*-*-*-good-one+ODF+a-standard-format+proprietary+*-bugs-me+a.protocol+National-Bureau-*-*+magic-*+zzz+*-*-*-*-send-documents-to-*-government-*-*-*-*
>

This whole EDIF effort has miserably failed. My guess is that the EDA
companies did not want it, everyone wants to cook their own soup and not
tell the competition anything. Sad, actually.

Without wanting to brag, in the medical device industry we did a lot
better. I sent our SW manager to regular DICOM meetings. So did our
competitors. That takes guts because here you have SW managers and
engineers of nearly all competitors sit around a table, go to the pub
together at night, chat, talk, becoming friends. This increased the risk
of a valuable employee being snatched away by a competitor. But: That
did not happen. Instead we now have one common standard that allows
hospitals to exchange data regardless of make, type or model of a
machine. _That_ is how it ought to be.

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