The best CAD for simulation, design and PCB?
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Posted by Patard on September 3, 2004, 7:46 am
Please log in for more thread options I'm creating my entreprise, and I'm looking for a Electronics CAD. Between PROTEL, ORCAD, CADSTAR, which one could be the better regarding facilities, and compatibilties whith Cadence, Orcad, Protel and Cadstar?and also possibilities of functionnal extension? Could also you tell me approximate prices for each one, in a configuration including following fonctionnalities : A/D simulation, design, PCB concept, GERBER creation and manipulation? Thank you! | |||||||||||||
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Posted by on September 3, 2004, 1:24 pm
Please log in for more thread options >I'm creating my entreprise, and I'm looking for a Electronics CAD.
>Between PROTEL, ORCAD, CADSTAR, which one could be the better
>regarding facilities, and compatibilties whith Cadence, Orcad, Protel and >Cadstar?and also possibilities of functionnal extension? I can't tell you everything you asked, or need to know, but I will step in and say avoid Protel at all costs. Not a user friendly piece of software at all. I was given a copy by a customer, and even free isn't enough to make me want to waste my time using it. | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Roger Gt on September 3, 2004, 7:58 pm
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: : >I'm creating my entreprise, and I'm looking for a Electronics
CAD.
: : >Between PROTEL, ORCAD, CADSTAR, which one could be the better
Protel and
: >regarding facilities, and compatibilties whith Cadence, Orcad, : >Cadstar?and also possibilities of functionnal extension?
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: I can't tell you everything you asked, or need to know, but I will step in and : say avoid Protel at all costs. Not a user friendly piece of software at all. I : was given a copy by a customer, and even free isn't enough to make me want to : waste my time using it. I'm sure Bad advice is not what you wanted. All the packages you list require learning to use them in an effective manner. Over the years I've used many different Schematic capture and layout tools, currently I use Orcad and Protel and find both adequate, although the differences are sometimes annoying. If you want support, Buy the PROTEL 2004, they are really great in the support group and training is available. However I do not recommend any of them, as a start up you should use a professional design house until you know what your trying to accomplish! Roger Gt | |||||||||||||
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Posted by on September 3, 2004, 3:12 pm
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Protel is not an easy package to use, and after a lot of experience in using it, I would not recommend it to anyone. Consider that maybe they have great support because the software is so badly implemented that it is the only way they can get anyone to use it. I have used the products you mentioned, in one version or another, and Protel falls way short in any about any comparison. Its best to remember that some people take their software packages very seriously and would probably let you say things about their wife and kids, that they would not allow you to say about the favorite CAD program. If you want to be productive, avoid Protel. I am pretty sure that no matter what I would recommend, or comment against, some will say anything to stir the pot and create a fuss, so take anything you read in a usenet group, including my words, with a big old grain of salt. >:
>: >I'm creating my entreprise, and I'm looking for a Electronics
>CAD.
>: >: >Between PROTEL, ORCAD, CADSTAR, which one could be the better
>: >regarding facilities, and compatibilties whith Cadence, Orcad, >Protel and
>: >Cadstar?and also possibilities of functionnal extension?
>:
>: I can't tell you everything you asked, or need to know, but I >will step in and >: say avoid Protel at all costs. Not a user friendly piece of >software at all. I >: was given a copy by a customer, and even free isn't enough to >make me want to >: waste my time using it. >I'm sure Bad advice is not what you wanted. All the packages you list
>require learning to use them in an effective manner. Over the years I've used >many different Schematic capture and layout tools, currently I use Orcad and >Protel and find both adequate, although the differences are sometimes >annoying. If you want support, Buy the PROTEL 2004, they are really great in >the support group and >training is available. However I do not recommend any of them, as a start up >you should use a professional design house until you >know what your trying to accomplish! >Roger Gt
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Posted by Roger Gt on September 3, 2004, 9:37 pm
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: : Protel is not an easy package to use, and after a lot of experience in using : it, I would not recommend it to anyone. Consider that maybe they have great : support because the software is so badly implemented that it is the only way : they can get anyone to use it. I have used the products you mentioned, in one : version or another, and Protel falls way short in any about any comparison. : Its best to remember that some people take their software packages very : seriously and would probably let you say things about their wife and kids, : that they would not allow you to say about the favorite CAD program. If you : want to be productive, avoid Protel. : : I am pretty sure that no matter what I would recommend, or comment against, : some will say anything to stir the pot and create a fuss, so take anything you : read in a usenet group, including my words, with a big old grain of salt. Grain of salt was being applied, and you seem to object to another view! AND a TOP poster, bad form! As a professional using Protel and Orcad I feel that such bad mouthing of a product needs to get identified as BAD advice. I find Protel no harder to use than any of the eleven such packages I have used, and far better than some. So get used to people disagreeing with you. The man wanted serious advice, not personal bias! BTW, after using ORCAD for about fifteen years it took less than a week to switch to Protel 99SE and a few days to up grade. I have Protel fro '98 on, and except for '98 they are all reasonably good packages. I strongly suggest you get the demo and try it before making a judgment for yourself. | |||||||||||||
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