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Posted by Koustav on November 5, 2007, 11:36 am
Please log in for more thread options I needed the spice netlists for the library cells in the TSMC 90nm library. We had approached the cadence vendor for USF but they said they only provide front end files, i.e., .lef and .tlf(or .lib) files, but no back-end files while includes the .sp files. Does synopsys provide this as well on request? I was wondering if somebody could help me out in obtaining this. The only other option for me is to use spice files for 180nm OSU library and scale it somehow...which will be tricky. Hand writing the spice files for the library will be too time consuming and I am trying to avoid that. I would really appreciate any help on this. Thanks, Koustav | |||||||||||||
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Posted by qrk on November 5, 2007, 2:58 pm
Please log in for more thread options Have you contacted TSMC? | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Koustav on November 6, 2007, 6:26 pm
Please log in for more thread options Hi qrk,
Thanx for ur response. Do you know anybody who asked TSMC any time about their library spice decks? Do they respond? I heard vendors are really reluctant in giving away these... Thanks, Koustav > wrote:
> > > > > > >Hello everybody,
>
> >I needed the spice netlists for the library cells in the TSMC 90nm
> >library. We had approached the cadence vendor for USF > >but they said they only provide front end files, i.e., .lef > >and .tlf(or > >.lib) files, but no back-end files while includes the .sp files. Does > >synopsys > >provide this as well on request? >
> >I was wondering if somebody could help me out in obtaining this. The
> >only > >other option for me is to use spice files for 180nm OSU library and > >scale it somehow...which will be tricky. Hand writing the spice files > >for the library will be too time consuming and I am trying to avoid > >that. >
> >I would really appreciate any help on this.
>
> >Thanks,
> >Koustav >
> Have you contacted TSMC?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - | |||||||||||||
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Posted by qrk on November 7, 2007, 2:20 pm
Please log in for more thread options wrote:
>Hi qrk,
> >Thanx for ur response. Do you know anybody who asked TSMC any time >about their library spice decks? Do they respond? I heard vendors are >really reluctant in giving away these... > >Thanks, >Koustav > > > >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Hello everybody,
>>
>> >I needed the spice netlists for the library cells in the TSMC 90nm
>> >library. We had approached the cadence vendor for USF >> >but they said they only provide front end files, i.e., .lef >> >and .tlf(or >> >.lib) files, but no back-end files while includes the .sp files. Does >> >synopsys >> >provide this as well on request? >>
>> >I was wondering if somebody could help me out in obtaining this. The
>> >only >> >other option for me is to use spice files for 180nm OSU library and >> >scale it somehow...which will be tricky. Hand writing the spice files >> >for the library will be too time consuming and I am trying to avoid >> >that. >>
>> >I would really appreciate any help on this.
>>
>> >Thanks,
>> >Koustav >>
>> Have you contacted TSMC?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - >
You will need to sign lots of legal papers to get their data. If you are serious about running a project through TSMC, then contact them. TSMC can't do business if they don't give out data. | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Koustav on November 10, 2007, 9:07 am
Please log in for more thread options > wrote:
> > > > > > >Hi qrk,
>
> >Thanx for ur response. Do you know anybody who asked TSMC any time
> >about their library spice decks? Do they respond? I heard vendors are > >really reluctant in giving away these... >
> >Thanks,
> >Koustav >
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >Hello everybody,
>
> >> >I needed the spice netlists for the library cells in the TSMC 90nm
> >> >library. We had approached the cadence vendor for USF > >> >but they said they only provide front end files, i.e., .lef > >> >and .tlf(or > >> >.lib) files, but no back-end files while includes the .sp files. Does > >> >synopsys > >> >provide this as well on request? >
> >> >I was wondering if somebody could help me out in obtaining this. The
> >> >only > >> >other option for me is to use spice files for 180nm OSU library and > >> >scale it somehow...which will be tricky. Hand writing the spice files > >> >for the library will be too time consuming and I am trying to avoid > >> >that. >
> >> >I would really appreciate any help on this.
>
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >Koustav >
> >> Have you contacted TSMC?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> You will need to sign lots of legal papers to get their data. If you > are serious about running a project through TSMC, then contact them. > TSMC can't do business if they don't give out data.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Hi qrk, Thanx for ur suggestions. I will try contacting TSMC directly then.... hope they turn out good. Thanks, Koustav | |||||||||||||
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>
>I needed the spice netlists for the library cells in the TSMC 90nm
>library. We had approached the cadence vendor for USF
>but they said they only provide front end files, i.e., .lef
>and .tlf(or
>.lib) files, but no back-end files while includes the .sp files. Does
>synopsys
>provide this as well on request?
>
>I was wondering if somebody could help me out in obtaining this. The
>only
>other option for me is to use spice files for 180nm OSU library and
>scale it somehow...which will be tricky. Hand writing the spice files
>for the library will be too time consuming and I am trying to avoid
>that.
>
>I would really appreciate any help on this.
>
>Thanks,
>Koustav