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Spice 3f5 sycochkn 02-08-08
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Posted by sycochkn on February 8, 2008, 7:53 am
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Is there a binary for Spice 3f5 somewhere, that I can download, that is
compiled for windows.

Bob



Posted by Ned Forrester on February 8, 2008, 12:05 pm
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sycochkn wrote:
> Is there a binary for Spice 3f5 somewhere, that I can download, that is
> compiled for windows.

I don't know about a 3f5 binary for Windows, but as a former user of the
3f5 source distribution from Berkeley, I will say that since starting to
use LTSpice free from Linear Technology, I have no plans to return to
native 3f5. LTSpice is based on 3f5, and contains the all important (to
me) arbitrary source, but has improved convergence, better front and
back ends (schematic capture and plotting), and provides behavioral
models of logic devices.

I'm not sure why you would want native 3f5.

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Ned Forrester n_f_orrester@whoi.edu 508-289-2226
Applied Ocean Physics and Engineering Dept.
Oceanographic Systems Lab http://adcp.whoi.edu/
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, Woods Hole, MA 02543, USA

Posted by sycochkn on February 8, 2008, 7:02 pm
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> sycochkn wrote:
>> Is there a binary for Spice 3f5 somewhere, that I can download, that is
>> compiled for windows.
>
> I don't know about a 3f5 binary for Windows, but as a former user of the
> 3f5 source distribution from Berkeley, I will say that since starting to
> use LTSpice free from Linear Technology, I have no plans to return to
> native 3f5. LTSpice is based on 3f5, and contains the all important (to
> me) arbitrary source, but has improved convergence, better front and back
> ends (schematic capture and plotting), and provides behavioral models of
> logic devices.
>
> I'm not sure why you would want native 3f5.
>
> --
> NOTE: to reply, remove all punctuation from email name field
>
> Ned Forrester n_f_orrester@whoi.edu 508-289-2226
> Applied Ocean Physics and Engineering Dept.
> Oceanographic Systems Lab http://adcp.whoi.edu/
> Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, Woods Hole, MA 02543, USA

I dont need the user interface. I use AutoCAD for the graphics interface. I
use notepad for input.

Bob



Posted by Helmut Sennewald on February 9, 2008, 10:03 am
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>
>> sycochkn wrote:
>>> Is there a binary for Spice 3f5 somewhere, that I can download, that is
>>> compiled for windows.
>>
>> I don't know about a 3f5 binary for Windows, but as a former user of the
>> 3f5 source distribution from Berkeley, I will say that since starting to
>> use LTSpice free from Linear Technology, I have no plans to return to
>> native 3f5. LTSpice is based on 3f5, and contains the all important (to
>> me) arbitrary source, but has improved convergence, better front and back
>> ends (schematic capture and plotting), and provides behavioral models of
>> logic devices.
>>
>> I'm not sure why you would want native 3f5.
>>
>> --
>> NOTE: to reply, remove all punctuation from email name field
>>
>> Ned Forrester n_f_orrester@whoi.edu 508-289-2226
>> Applied Ocean Physics and Engineering Dept.
>> Oceanographic Systems Lab http://adcp.whoi.edu/
>> Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, Woods Hole, MA 02543, USA
>
> I dont need the user interface. I use AutoCAD for the graphics interface.
> I use notepad for input.
>
> Bob


Hallo Bob,

Even if you work with netlists, you will be happy with
the waveform viewer of LTspice. It's much more powerful
than what you can get for SPICE 3Fx. Also LTspice is more
compatible to (P)SPICE than SPICE 3Fx.

If you don't like productive and state of the art software,
you should go with SPICE 3Fx of course.

Best regards,
Helmut




Posted by sycochkn on February 9, 2008, 5:39 pm
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>>
>>> sycochkn wrote:
>>>> Is there a binary for Spice 3f5 somewhere, that I can download, that is
>>>> compiled for windows.
>>>
>>> I don't know about a 3f5 binary for Windows, but as a former user of the
>>> 3f5 source distribution from Berkeley, I will say that since starting to
>>> use LTSpice free from Linear Technology, I have no plans to return to
>>> native 3f5. LTSpice is based on 3f5, and contains the all important (to
>>> me) arbitrary source, but has improved convergence, better front and
>>> back ends (schematic capture and plotting), and provides behavioral
>>> models of logic devices.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure why you would want native 3f5.
>>>
>>> --
>>> NOTE: to reply, remove all punctuation from email name field
>>>
>>> Ned Forrester n_f_orrester@whoi.edu 508-289-2226
>>> Applied Ocean Physics and Engineering Dept.
>>> Oceanographic Systems Lab http://adcp.whoi.edu/
>>> Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, Woods Hole, MA 02543, USA
>>
>> I dont need the user interface. I use AutoCAD for the graphics interface.
>> I use notepad for input.
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> Hallo Bob,
>
> Even if you work with netlists, you will be happy with
> the waveform viewer of LTspice. It's much more powerful
> than what you can get for SPICE 3Fx. Also LTspice is more
> compatible to (P)SPICE than SPICE 3Fx.
>
> If you don't like productive and state of the art software,
> you should go with SPICE 3Fx of course.
>
> Best regards,
> Helmut
>
>
>

I like productive state of the art software as well as anybody else. I am a
little tapped out at the moment I just spent 1200 dollars on software. I
only use spice occasionally so I would not really want to spend any money on
it I can live without the user interface.

Bob



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