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Posted by Winfield Hill on July 26, 2007, 6:22 pm
Please log in for more thread options One of us here is a Protel 99 SE user, and has developed a strange problem on his Acer laptop, running Windows XP. The program seems to startup, and shows its splash screen for a few seconds, but then no program window appears. Protel has a Client99SE taskbar button (and it's also on the Task Manager list). If the button is selected it says you can Minimize, but Restore is greyed out. If you go ahead and minimize it, Minimize is greyed out and the Restore option is available, but clicking on that does not reveal a program window. If you start the program by clicking on a .pcb file, for example, the splash screen is up for a longer time (while it's loading the file), but still no visible program window after the spash screen closes. So it seems the program is running, but won't show a work screen. Removing and reinstalling Protel 99 SE didn't fix the problem. Removing Altium Designer 6, which had been installed earlier, didn't fix the problem. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Jamie on July 26, 2007, 6:55 pm
Please log in for more thread options Winfield Hill wrote: and remove all entries to do with that program? Many times even when you reinstall after using an uninstaller for example. Traces of settings for that App will remain in the registry. Now, I'm thinking of an scenario (since I my self write code), it's highly possible the app saves it's last screen position for the main form. could it be possible that at one point an external monitor or screen size of a much greater value was implemented? and in this case, the form was off to the right, and program closed before switching back? Just a guess, some authors of apps forget to this part to correct for it un start up. Something to think about. -- "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken" Real Programmers Do things like this. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Charlie Edmondson on July 26, 2007, 7:51 pm
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Jamie wrote: > Winfield Hill wrote:
> >> One of us here is a Protel 99 SE user, and has
>> developed a strange problem on his Acer laptop, >> running Windows XP. The program seems to >> startup, and shows its splash screen for a few >> seconds, but then no program window appears. >> >> Protel has a Client99SE taskbar button (and it's >> also on the Task Manager list). If the button is >> selected it says you can Minimize, but Restore >> is greyed out. If you go ahead and minimize it, >> Minimize is greyed out and the Restore option >> is available, but clicking on that does not reveal >> a program window. >> >> If you start the program by clicking on a .pcb file, >> for example, the splash screen is up for a longer >> time (while it's loading the file), but still no visible >> program window after the spash screen closes. >> >> So it seems the program is running, but won't >> show a work screen. >> >> Removing and reinstalling Protel 99 SE didn't fix >> the problem. Removing Altium Designer 6, which >> had been installed earlier, didn't fix the problem. >> > when you removed the program, did you also go into the registry
Yeah, Win, I have seen two scenarios like this. Either it is off the
> and remove all entries to do with that program? > Many times even when you reinstall after using an uninstaller > for example. Traces of settings for that App will remain in the registry. > Now, I'm thinking of an scenario (since I my self write code), it's > highly possible the app saves it's last screen position for the main > form. could it be possible that at one point an external monitor or > screen size of a much greater value was implemented? and in this case, > the form was off to the right, and program closed before switching back? > > Just a guess, some authors of apps forget to this part to correct for > it un start up. > > Something to think about. > > > physical screen, or it has been sized to be really, really small so that you can't see it. Usually, you can contact Altium and the folks there can point you to the offending registry keys or configuration file where you can usually nuke them and they get automaticaly recreated... Charlie | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Joel Kolstad on July 26, 2007, 8:32 pm
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Win, If it's off the screen like Charlie suggests (I've seen this as well), select "move" from the taskbar icon and then press each of the arrow keys a couple of times to see if it "snaps" back to the visible portion of the screen (while Windows apparently has no qualms about letting windows open off-screen, while they're being moved it does enforce their location such that they're visible). Try this first with a program that's behaving and you'll see how it works. This trick works even for programs without taskbar icons... if you run the program and then press Alt+Space, it brings up the "window" menu, which has the "move" option available. ---Joel | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Winfield on July 26, 2007, 10:34 pm
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wrote: > Win,
> > If it's off the screen like Charlie suggests (I've seen this as well), select > "move" from the taskbar icon and then press each of the arrow keys a couple of > times to see if it "snaps" back to the visible portion of the screen (while > Windows apparently has no qualms about letting windows open off-screen, while > they're being moved it does enforce their location such that they're visible). > Try this first with a program that's behaving and you'll see how it works. > > This trick works even for programs without taskbar icons... if you run the > program and then press Alt+Space, it brings up the "window" menu, which has > the "move" option available. > > ---Joel Yes, I had thought of the offscreen or too small possibilities, but thanks! I couldn't remember the Alt+Space trick. Somehow the move option didn't seem to reveal itself from the taskbar. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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> developed a strange problem on his Acer laptop,
> running Windows XP. The program seems to
> startup, and shows its splash screen for a few
> seconds, but then no program window appears.
>
> Protel has a Client99SE taskbar button (and it's
> also on the Task Manager list). If the button is
> selected it says you can Minimize, but Restore
> is greyed out. If you go ahead and minimize it,
> Minimize is greyed out and the Restore option
> is available, but clicking on that does not reveal
> a program window.
>
> If you start the program by clicking on a .pcb file,
> for example, the splash screen is up for a longer
> time (while it's loading the file), but still no visible
> program window after the spash screen closes.
>
> So it seems the program is running, but won't
> show a work screen.
>
> Removing and reinstalling Protel 99 SE didn't fix
> the problem. Removing Altium Designer 6, which
> had been installed earlier, didn't fix the problem.
>