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Posted by Malcolm Reeves on December 23, 2004, 1:10 am
Please log in for more thread options Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it. Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an amplifier are. TIA -- Malcolm Malcolm Reeves BSc CEng MIEE MIRSE, Full Circuit Ltd, Chippenham, UK (mreeves@fullcircuit.com, mreeves@fullcircuit.co.uk or mreeves@iee.org). Design Service for Analogue/Digital H/W & S/W Railway Signalling and Power electronics. More details plus freeware, Win95/98 DUN and Pspice tips, see: http://www.fullcircuit.com or http://www.fullcircuit.co.uk NEW - www.CharteredConsultant.co.uk - The Consultant A-List | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Jim Thompson on December 22, 2004, 6:34 pm
Please log in for more thread options I have a device-level model for 74HCU04, but not for 4069. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Malcolm Reeves on December 23, 2004, 2:56 pm
Please log in for more thread options Hi Jim,
Thanks for the offer. I'll bear it in mind if I ever need the HC04 but for now the 4069 would suit better as the supply voltage range is more. Malcolm On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:34:32 -0700, Jim Thompson >On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:10:48 +0000, Malcolm Reeves
> >>Hi,
>> >>Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an >>amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it. >> >>Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an >>amplifier are. >> >>TIA >
>I have a device-level model for 74HCU04, but not for 4069. > > ...Jim Thompson -- Malcolm Malcolm Reeves BSc CEng MIEE MIRSE, Full Circuit Ltd, Chippenham, UK (mreeves@fullcircuit.com, mreeves@fullcircuit.co.uk or mreeves@iee.org). Design Service for Analogue/Digital H/W & S/W Railway Signalling and Power electronics. More details plus freeware, Win95/98 DUN and Pspice tips, see: http://www.fullcircuit.com or http://www.fullcircuit.co.uk NEW - www.CharteredConsultant.co.uk - The Consultant A-List | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Helmut Sennewald on December 23, 2004, 4:52 am
Please log in for more thread options > Hi,
> > Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an > amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it. > > Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an > amplifier are. > Hello Malcolm, there has been a similar question in sci.electronics.design in November(11/18/2004). The original postings are attached. ..SUBCKT 4069UB 6 1 4 *Connections e s Vcc M2 1 6 0 0 CD4069BN M3 1 6 4 4 CD4069BP ..MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M GAMMA=3.97U + PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46 + CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N) ..MODEL CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U + PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46 + CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N) ..ENDS 4069UB Best Rgeards, Helmut --- Original thread from sci.electronics.design --- >
> > *********
LAMBDA=1.87M
> > .SUBCKT 4069UB 6 1 4 > > *Connections e s Vcc > > M2 1 6 0 0 CD4069BN > > M3 1 6 4 4 CD4069BP > > .MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M GAMMA=3.97U > > + PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46 > > + CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N) > > .MODEL CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U > > + PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46 > > + CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N) > > .ENDS 4069UB > > *$ > > * > > ************* > > > > In LTSPICE > > > > Version 4 > > SHEET 1 1240 680 > > WIRE 144 160 96 160 > > WIRE 96 160 96 288 > > WIRE 96 432 144 432 > > WIRE 192 352 192 288 > > WIRE 192 144 192 112 > > WIRE 192 448 192 480 > > WIRE 96 288 48 288 > > WIRE 96 288 96 432 > > WIRE 192 288 240 288 > > WIRE 192 288 192 240 > > FLAG 192 112 VDD > > IOPIN 192 112 In > > FLAG 192 480 VDD > > IOPIN 192 480 In > > FLAG 48 288 IN > > IOPIN 48 288 In > > FLAG 240 288 OUT > > IOPIN 240 288 Out > > SYMBOL nmos 144 352 R0 > > WINDOW 0 57 39 Left 0 > > WINDOW 3 58 60 Left 0 > > SYMATTR InstName M2 > > SYMATTR Value CD4069BN > > SYMBOL pmos 144 240 M180 > > WINDOW 0 60 59 Left 0 > > WINDOW 3 59 34 Left 0 > > SYMATTR InstName M1 > > SYMATTR Value CD4069BP > > TEXT 336 232 Left 0 !.MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M > > GAMMA=3.97U\n+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 > > MJ=.46\n+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)\n.MODEL > > CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U\n+ PHI=.75 > > RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46\n+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N
> > CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N) > > > > > > OK, it's a bit of a hack but someone else might tidy it up. > > > > DNA >
> Aha! Looks promising... now what do I do with that bit of text to make > a component model with it? I'm putting the circuit in using circuit > piccies, not using a netlist. > > Thanks, NT You copy the text into notepad and then save the file with a .asc extension. LTspice will then open it up as a schematic. DNA | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Malcolm Reeves on December 23, 2004, 2:53 pm
Please log in for more thread options Hi Helmut,
Thanks. I'd missed that thread. Malcolm On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:52:46 +0100, "Helmut Sennewald" >> Hi,
>> >> Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an >> amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it. >> >> Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an >> amplifier are. >> >
>Hello Malcolm, >there has been a similar question in sci.electronics.design >in November(11/18/2004). The original postings are attached. > >.SUBCKT 4069UB 6 1 4 >*Connections e s Vcc >M2 1 6 0 0 CD4069BN >M3 1 6 4 4 CD4069BP >.MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M GAMMA=3.97U >+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46 >+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N) >.MODEL CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U >+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46 >+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N) >.ENDS 4069UB > >Best Rgeards, >Helmut > > > >--- Original thread from sci.electronics.design --- > >>
>> > *********
>> > .SUBCKT 4069UB 6 1 4 >> > *Connections e s Vcc >> > M2 1 6 0 0 CD4069BN >> > M3 1 6 4 4 CD4069BP >> > .MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M GAMMA=3.97U >> > + PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46 >> > + CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N) >> > .MODEL CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U >> > + PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46 >> > + CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N) >> > .ENDS 4069UB >> > *$ >> > * >> > ************* >> > >> > In LTSPICE >> > >> > Version 4 >> > SHEET 1 1240 680 >> > WIRE 144 160 96 160 >> > WIRE 96 160 96 288 >> > WIRE 96 432 144 432 >> > WIRE 192 352 192 288 >> > WIRE 192 144 192 112 >> > WIRE 192 448 192 480 >> > WIRE 96 288 48 288 >> > WIRE 96 288 96 432 >> > WIRE 192 288 240 288 >> > WIRE 192 288 192 240 >> > FLAG 192 112 VDD >> > IOPIN 192 112 In >> > FLAG 192 480 VDD >> > IOPIN 192 480 In >> > FLAG 48 288 IN >> > IOPIN 48 288 In >> > FLAG 240 288 OUT >> > IOPIN 240 288 Out >> > SYMBOL nmos 144 352 R0 >> > WINDOW 0 57 39 Left 0 >> > WINDOW 3 58 60 Left 0 >> > SYMATTR InstName M2 >> > SYMATTR Value CD4069BN >> > SYMBOL pmos 144 240 M180 >> > WINDOW 0 60 59 Left 0 >> > WINDOW 3 59 34 Left 0 >> > SYMATTR InstName M1 >> > SYMATTR Value CD4069BP >> > TEXT 336 232 Left 0 !.MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M >> > GAMMA=3.97U\n+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 >> > MJ=.46\n+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)\n.MODEL >> > CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U\n+ PHI=.75 >LAMBDA=1.87M
>> > RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46\n+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N
>> > CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N) >> > >> > >> > OK, it's a bit of a hack but someone else might tidy it up. >> > >> > DNA >>
>> Aha! Looks promising... now what do I do with that bit of text to make >> a component model with it? I'm putting the circuit in using circuit >> piccies, not using a netlist. >> >> Thanks, NT >
>You copy the text into notepad and then save the file with a .asc extension. >LTspice will then open it up as a schematic. > >DNA > > -- Malcolm Malcolm Reeves BSc CEng MIEE MIRSE, Full Circuit Ltd, Chippenham, UK (mreeves@fullcircuit.com, mreeves@fullcircuit.co.uk or mreeves@iee.org). Design Service for Analogue/Digital H/W & S/W Railway Signalling and Power electronics. More details plus freeware, Win95/98 DUN and Pspice tips, see: http://www.fullcircuit.com or http://www.fullcircuit.co.uk NEW - www.CharteredConsultant.co.uk - The Consultant A-List | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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>Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an
>amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it.
>
>Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an
>amplifier are.
>
>TIA