Recommend me a Crimper - AMP vs. GMP
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Posted by Chris Keath on August 21, 2004, 12:48 am
Please log in for more thread options RJ11. The GMP Tools is a bit pricey but it feels real good in the hand. On the other hand, I know alot of fellas that have been using the AMP crimper for years. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Dr. Anton T. Squeegee on August 20, 2004, 9:54 pm
Please log in for more thread options "Good quality tool" and "makeshift crimps" do not go together in the same sentence. Trust me, you do NOT want "makeshift" crimps in any sort of connector application, most especially not RJ45! Invest in a good-quality crimper, use the correct plug for the type of wire in use (solid or stranded is usually how they're differentiated), and learn how to properly prepare the cable and crimp the plug onto it. There's never any excuse for "makeshift" work. > The GMP Tools is a bit pricey but it feels real good in the hand.
> On the other hand, I know alot of fellas that have been using the AMP > crimper for years. I've had fine results with the AMP professional-style rachet-crimp tool, though I would like to eventually "upgrade" to the GMP. It's truly the top of the line. Happy hunting. -- Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute. (Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR, kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?" | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by greg t. knopf on August 21, 2004, 12:57 pm
Please log in for more thread options Hello,
> Just need a good quality tool for some *makeshift* crimps - RJ45 &
> RJ11. > > > The GMP Tools is a bit pricey but it feels real good in the hand. > On the other hand, I know alot of fellas that have been using the AMP > crimper for years. I use the Amp crimper and like it. I'm going to pass along a cut-n-paste from an earlier usenet posting with some info about Amp plugs which you might want to keep in mind: ---------------------------------------- .... .... Speaking of 48X jacks. One other classic trouble with RJ-48X jacks is where the 8 pin plug, from a rather big plug vendor, when inserted does not fully break the hard X jack loopback. On some 8 pin plugs there can be found a hollowed grove that is parallel with the plug contacts #1 & #8 of the head shell. Those 8 pin grooved plugs have a tendency to not open the hard T1 loop because the jack shorting bars fall into the plugs hollow grove(s) causing the shorting bars not to move up. This trouble goes back to 1995. When we called one of the plug manufaturers, and discussed the issue. Our answer was simply. Nothing in the ANSI requirements indicate that the groves provided do not have to be there. So I guess we ate some cake that answer. Subject: Re: DS-1 distance limitation Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 09:49:39 GMT Organization: St. Peter's College, US Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom.tech Yup. That's one of the reason I no longer use AMP tooling/plugs, but use GMP exclusively. AMP changed their production so they could use the same molds for both the 8-conductor and 10-conductor version - they just don't stuff the contacts in positions 0 and 9. What's even more annoying is that TTC (the T-Berd folks) use those plugs on their bantam-to-RJ48 adapter, at least when I bought my 209. Terry Kennedy http://www.tmk.com terry@tmk.com Jersey City, NJ USA ---------------------------------------- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com on August 22, 2004, 5:58 am
Please log in for more thread options Chris Keath wrote:
> Just need a good quality tool for some *makeshift* crimps - RJ45 &
> RJ11. > The GMP Tools is a bit pricey but it feels real good in the hand.
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> On the other hand, I know alot of fellas that have been using the AMP > crimper for years. Where do you normally get your plugs? If you just buy them at Home Depot, you may want to stick with Ideal or Greenlee crimper (which, coincidentally, HD sells). AMP crimper crushes Ideal plugs and vise versa. One the other hand, with Ideal tool it is rather easy to procure plugs - just don't buy AMP. Pretty much everything else works; at least I haven't come across one that does not. -- Dmitri Abaimov, RCDD http://www.cabling-design.com Cabling Forum, color codes, pinouts and other useful resources for premises cabling users and pros http://www.cabling-design.com/homecabling Residential Cabling Guide ##-----------------------------------------------## Article posted with Cabling-Design.com Newsgroup Archive http://www.cabling-design.com/forums no-spam read and post WWW interface to your favorite newsgroup - comp.dcom.cabling - 4186 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Chris Keath on August 22, 2004, 6:24 pm
Please log in for more thread options I usually use Siemon plugs --- however, if I'm all out and need some
in a jiffy, I'll just pick up the HD-Ideal plugs. Are the *plugs* between brands pretty much the same or is there something special about certain brands like AMP ? I played around using the Cat5E with the *black guide* and it was a PITA imho On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 02:58:41 GMT, info_at_cabling-design_dot_com@foo.com (Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)) wrote: >Chris Keath wrote:
> >> Just need a good quality tool for some *makeshift* crimps - RJ45 &
>> RJ11. >
> >> The GMP Tools is a bit pricey but it feels real good in the hand.
>> On the other hand, I know alot of fellas that have been using the AMP >> crimper for years. >-------------------------------------
> > >Where do you normally get your plugs? >If you just buy them at Home Depot, you may want to stick with Ideal or >Greenlee crimper (which, coincidentally, HD sells). AMP crimper crushes >Ideal plugs and vise versa. One the other hand, with Ideal tool it is >rather easy to procure plugs - just don't buy AMP. Pretty much everything >else works; at least I haven't come across one that does not. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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