LAN and Telecom Cabling Re: Ethernet connection sensitive to cable length

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Re: Ethernet connection sensitive to cable length ps56k 05-03-08
Posted by glen herrmannsfeldt on May 7, 2008, 4:50 am
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DLR wrote:
(snip)

> I made a patch cord once. Then decided I had the cash to buy them. With
> hooded and/or snag proof ends no less. At a price that valued my labor
> at $1 or $2 an hour.

I have bought bags on eBay for less than $1/cable,
hooded with snag proof ends.

For unusual length, though, sometimes making one is the
best way.

-- glen


Posted by windsurferLA on May 8, 2008, 2:35 am
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glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:
>
>
> For unusual length, though, sometimes making one is the
> best way.

I will add that I certainly agree it is preferable to go with
commercially assembled cables when ever possible. In my case, I wanted
to be able to squeeze the wires through several holes that were too
small for the connectors, so the connectors had to be installed after
the wiring was threaded over its 100 foot run. After this experience, I
will choose to make bigger holes for commercial cables and hire a
plasterer and painter to come in afterwards to pretty things up.

I'm surprised by very large number of comments on my original post. I
suspect that many identified with my problem.

WindsurferLA

Posted by Robert Redelmeier on May 8, 2008, 8:53 am
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> I will add that I certainly agree it is preferable to go with
> commercially assembled cables when ever possible. In my case,
> I wanted to be able to squeeze the wires through several holes
> that were too small for the connectors, so the connectors had to
> be installed after the wiring was threaded over its 100 foot run.
> After this experience, I will choose to make bigger holes for
> commercial cables and hire a plasterer and painter to come in
> afterwards to pretty things up.

The preferred solution in this case to to run solid wire and
terminate it on patch-panels, wallplates or surface-mount
boxes (depending on cable count). Then run short patch-cords
to equipment. Much neater, more reliable and flexible.


-- Robert


Posted by Robert Redelmeier on May 7, 2008, 8:32 am
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> I made a patch cord once. Then decided I had the cash to
> buy them. With hooded and/or snag proof ends no less. At
> a price that valued my labor at $1 or $2 an hour.

Agreed. Even when you have the knowledge and the tools, crimping
plugs is hard. Crimping on solid is fairly easy [dressing
conductors] but prone to failure from flexing [work hardening].

Crimping on stranded (proper) is very difficult because the
conductors won't stay dressed and shift when inserted into the plug.
I believe production machinery uses a duck-bill clamp to hold the
conductors aligned. I've never seen pliers for this.


-- Robert


Posted by Mark Evans on May 14, 2008, 9:35 am
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> > I made a patch cord once. Then decided I had the cash to
> > buy them. With hooded and/or snag proof ends no less. At
> > a price that valued my labor at $1 or $2 an hour.

> Agreed. Even when you have the knowledge and the tools, crimping
> plugs is hard. Crimping on solid is fairly easy [dressing
> conductors] but prone to failure from flexing [work hardening].

Crimp plugs generally arn't intended for solid core. Even when it works
the contact area is likely to be rather less than it should be.

> Crimping on stranded (proper) is very difficult because the
> conductors won't stay dressed and shift when inserted into the plug.

It helps to untwist and straighten the wires before putting them in the
right order and trimming to length.

> I believe production machinery uses a duck-bill clamp to hold the
> conductors aligned. I've never seen pliers for this.

How would you use pliers? In order for the outer jacket to be held the
optimal wire length tends to be around 15mm.


> -- Robert


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