LAN and Telecom Cabling Re: Ethernet connection sensitive to cable length

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Re: Ethernet connection sensitive to cable length ps56k 05-03-08
Posted by msg on May 4, 2008, 2:17 am
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

<snip>
> 4. In the miscellaneous category,... ethernet over 25 pair
> telco bundles

Starlan 1 Mbps?

Michael

Posted by ps56k on May 4, 2008, 2:24 am
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msg wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> 4. In the miscellaneous category,... ethernet over 25 pair
>> telco bundles
>
> Starlan 1 Mbps?
>
> Michael

wow - StarLan -
That really takes me back...
We creating the video training and marketing materials...



Posted by Jeff Liebermann on May 4, 2008, 4:02 am
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>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
><snip>
>> 4. In the miscellaneous category,... ethernet over 25 pair
>> telco bundles

>Starlan 1 Mbps?
>Michael

Nope. 10Mbits/sec half-duplex ethernet over 25 pair telco bundles.
Works fine up to about 100ft. It might work farther, but I haven't
tried it.

Gaaak. Starlan brings back not very fond memories of doing battle
with 3B2-400 clunkers using Ma Bell 258A wiring on CAT3 shared with
Pre-Merlin phone systems. I had no idea what I was doing, so it's
little wonder that I could never make it all work quite right.

Sorry, no LatticeNet. Some Token Ring (4Mbit/sec), Moses Networks
Promise LAN, DECNet, Novell Netware, 3com something pure ISO stack,
Microsoft LAN Manager, Lantastic, and probably a few more that I'm
successfully forgotten about. Add a bunch of TCP/IP implimentations
for Windoze 3.x that never quite worked right, and a mess of
non-802.11 schemes and protocols, that went nowhere.

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Posted by ps56k on May 4, 2008, 12:42 pm
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> Gaaak. Starlan brings back not very fond memories of doing battle
> with 3B2-400 clunkers using Ma Bell 258A wiring on CAT3 shared with
> Pre-Merlin phone systems. I had no idea what I was doing, so it's
> little wonder that I could never make it all work quite right.

3B2 - ahhhhhh -
We also did the training video & product intro for the "Unix PC" -
along with the IBM 3270 replacement..... can't recall the number, maybe 6500
?
Lastly - we did the AT&T PC product materials & launch -

ahhhhhh -



Posted by Rich Seifert on May 4, 2008, 12:55 pm
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> Moses Networks Promise LAN

I knew some of the developers there, and just *loved* the product name.
In the end, it was more of a promise than a LAN, however.

My all-time favorite communications product name was from a company
(whose name I forget) up in Marin county who built a very simple device.
"Back in the day", terminals connected to computers using modems, which
had a "DCE flavor" (modem-to-host computer) and a "DTE flavor"
(modem-to-terminal) for the wiring. If you wanted to connect a terminal
directly to a computer, you could eliminate the modem, but needed to
cross-connect the transmit/receive pairs in the cable. Today we all know
this as a "null modem" cable, and it is fairly ubiquitous, but it hasn't
always been so.

This small company marketed a "null modem" device; a small box that had
the transmit/receive cross-wiring, with connectors that would allow the
use of ordinary, uncrossed-wiring modem cables to the DTE and DCE.
Simple, but useful if you don't have a null modem cable.

No technological genius here, but great marketing savvy. Instead of
calling it a "cable crossover" or some such, they called the device a
"QuasiModem"--the box had a picture of a bent-over Quasimodo carrying
the device under his arm, with the slogan "We've got a *hunch* you'll
like it!"

Believe it or not, between the last two sentences I just went outside my
office and shot a bobcat who was chasing my house cat, whose name
happens to be "Cat 3"(he is my third cat). No, I am not planning to
upgrade him to Cat 5.

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(408) 395-5700 Los Gatos, CA 95033
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