LAN and Telecom Cabling RJ45 to 110 Cross-Connects

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RJ45 to 110 Cross-Connects Bob Simon 08-24-04
Posted by Bob Simon on August 24, 2004, 1:13 am
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I'm planning the wiring for new office space. 125 Cat5 cables for
voice (plus 125 for data) from the offices will terminate on patch
panels in a rack. 1 pair lines from the phone switch terminate on a
110 block mounted on a plywood board about 8 feet away. I'm trying to
figure out the best way to cross-connect the two that will make it
easy to make changes when folks change offices.

I'm familiar with both RJ45 and 110 patch cords (in this case, I could
use the 1 pair clips) and I presume that I could get patch cords with
one of each. But I'd really rather not have 125 (expensive) patch
cords running from the rack to the wall. Please suggest some other
options I should consider.

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Posted by Touch Tone Tommy on August 24, 2004, 1:35 am
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>I'm planning the wiring for new office space. 125 Cat5 cables for
>voice (plus 125 for data) from the offices will terminate on patch
>panels in a rack. 1 pair lines from the phone switch terminate on a
>110 block mounted on a plywood board about 8 feet away. I'm trying to
>figure out the best way to cross-connect the two that will make it
>easy to make changes when folks change offices.
>
>I'm familiar with both RJ45 and 110 patch cords (in this case, I could
>use the 1 pair clips) and I presume that I could get patch cords with
>one of each. But I'd really rather not have 125 (expensive) patch
>cords running from the rack to the wall. Please suggest some other
>options I should consider.
>
Mount another patch panel in the rack. Cable it with 25pair cable, one
pair per port, terminating on the white/blue punchdown. Terminate the
other end on a 110 block next to your dial-tone 110 block. Cross
connect your various extensions to the 110 feeding the patchpanel.
Viola. Modular extension jacks on the rack, ready for you to patch
with standard patch cords to the workstation outlets.





Posted by Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com on August 24, 2004, 2:00 pm
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If Bob is looking for a cheapest solution, this may not be it. You would
just exchange the cost of the (rather expensive) 110-to-RJ45 cords onto
the costs of the patch panel, 25-pair, labor and RJ45-to-RJ45. Depending
on your labor it may become even more expensive than to just take the 10FT
cords from the wall directly into the rack.
In case Bob is in for a most convenient solution, I totally agree with
you. If both voice and data patch panels are in the same rack,
cross-connects will be a snap and the mass of the cords will be more
manageable.
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Touch Tone Tommy wrote:

> wrote:

>>I'm planning the wiring for new office space. 125 Cat5 cables for
>>voice (plus 125 for data) from the offices will terminate on patch
>>panels in a rack. 1 pair lines from the phone switch terminate on
>> a
>>110 block mounted on a plywood board about 8 feet away. I'm trying
>> to
>>figure out the best way to cross-connect the two that will make it
>>easy to make changes when folks change offices.
>>
>>I'm familiar with both RJ45 and 110 patch cords (in this case, I
>> could
>>use the 1 pair clips) and I presume that I could get patch cords
>> with
>>one of each. But I'd really rather not have 125 (expensive) patch
>>cords running from the rack to the wall. Please suggest some other
>>options I should consider.
>>
>> Mount another patch panel in the rack. Cable it with 25pair cable, one
> pair per port, terminating on the white/blue punchdown. Terminate the
> other end on a 110 block next to your dial-tone 110 block. Cross
> connect your various extensions to the 110 feeding the patchpanel.
> Viola. Modular extension jacks on the rack, ready for you to patch
> with standard patch cords to the workstation outlets.











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Posted by Bob Simon on August 24, 2004, 12:18 pm
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:00:38 GMT,
info_at_cabling-design_dot_com@foo.com (Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com))
wrote:

>If Bob is looking for a cheapest solution, this may not be it. You would
>just exchange the cost of the (rather expensive) 110-to-RJ45 cords onto
>the costs of the patch panel, 25-pair, labor and RJ45-to-RJ45. Depending
>on your labor it may become even more expensive than to just take the 10FT
>cords from the wall directly into the rack.
>In case Bob is in for a most convenient solution, I totally agree with
>you. If both voice and data patch panels are in the same rack,
>cross-connects will be a snap and the mass of the cords will be more
>manageable.

Tommy and Dmitri,
Thanks for the suggestion. I only have one question:
Instead of terminating the wall side of the 25 pair cables on another
110 block and cross-connecting to the dial tone block, why not
directly punch down on the top of the dial tone block's 110 clips?

This would make the blue/white connections on the new patch panel
simply an extension of the dial tone block onto the rack. All
cross-connects would then be done via RJ45 patch cords.

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Posted by Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com on August 24, 2004, 9:36 pm
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Technically you can do that, but it won't really look pretty as 110 blocks
have no way of holding a mass of cable(s) coming from above, so people
tend to avoid doing that. On the other hand, 110-blocks are cheap enough
so you don't really save too much by excluding the other block that would
take the 25-pair on its base.

I thought this diagram from my site can be useful as a reference here:

http://www.cabling-design.com/references/pinouts/110_block_4_pair.shtml

Good luck!


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Bob Simon wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:00:38 GMT,
> info_at_cabling-design_dot_com@foo.com (Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com))
> wrote:

>>If Bob is looking for a cheapest solution, this may not be it. You
>> would
>>just exchange the cost of the (rather expensive) 110-to-RJ45 cords
>> onto
>>the costs of the patch panel, 25-pair, labor and RJ45-to-RJ45.
>> Depending
>>on your labor it may become even more expensive than to just take
>> the 10FT
>>cords from the wall directly into the rack.
>>In case Bob is in for a most convenient solution, I totally agree
>> with
>>you. If both voice and data patch panels are in the same rack,
>>cross-connects will be a snap and the mass of the cords will be
>> more
>>manageable.

> Tommy and Dmitri,
> Thanks for the suggestion. I only have one question:
> Instead of terminating the wall side of the 25 pair cables on another
> 110 block and cross-connecting to the dial tone block, why not
> directly punch down on the top of the dial tone block's 110 clips?

> This would make the blue/white connections on the new patch panel
> simply an extension of the dial tone block onto the rack. All
> cross-connects would then be done via RJ45 patch cords.

> --
> Bob Simon
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