LAN and Telecom Cabling RJ45 connector question

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RJ45 connector question Bobby 07-08-04
Posted by Bobby on July 8, 2004, 2:55 pm
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Hello everyone,

Ok i just recently bought myself a crimping tool to crimp some CAT5
cables with the connectors, now i am kind of practicing here until I
get better at it. Now I have tried to do it on my own but so far none
of the cables I did actually work so I dont know what I am doing
wrong. This is what I am doing..
I first strip the outer cat5 cable about 1/2 off the jacket, then I
untwist the wires and arrange them properly, but first how do I make a
even cut of the wires? I know you have to make them all even so when
they go in the connector they all can hit the connector but I cant
seem to make a straight cut, but moving on after that I put them in
the connector and crimp it and thats it, but the ones I did dont
work.. do you think maybe its because I didnt make an even cut?


Posted by Michael Quinlan on July 9, 2004, 12:10 am
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Bobby wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Ok i just recently bought myself a crimping tool to crimp some CAT5
> cables with the connectors, now i am kind of practicing here until I
> get better at it. Now I have tried to do it on my own but so far none
> of the cables I did actually work so I dont know what I am doing
> wrong. This is what I am doing..
> I first strip the outer cat5 cable about 1/2 off the jacket, then I
> untwist the wires and arrange them properly, but first how do I make a
> even cut of the wires? I know you have to make them all even so when
> they go in the connector they all can hit the connector but I cant
> seem to make a straight cut, but moving on after that I put them in
> the connector and crimp it and thats it, but the ones I did dont
> work.. do you think maybe its because I didnt make an even cut?

Wen you say you "untwist the wires and arrange them properly", are you
following either of the T568A or T568B wiring standards? If not, that
may be your problem.

As far as getting all the wires even, I strip off more than the 1/2",
and after everything is untwisted and aligned properly, I cut the wires
with a cutter where the cutting edge is perpendicular to the, and the
entire length of the cutting edges remain equidistant from each other.
(I'm sure this tool has a name, but I don't know what it is).

In practice, I use Leviton EZ-RJ45 connectors and corresponding crimp
tool. The wires go all the way through the connector, and the tool cuts
them off during crimping. I'm sure others make similar tools and
connectors.

With all that said, I rarely crimp UTP connectors, opting for pre-made
patch cables instead. They are much more economical and reliable. I
only crimp when patch cables aren't an option.


Posted by Robert Redelmeier on July 9, 2004, 12:46 am
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> Ok i just recently bought myself a crimping tool to crimp some CAT5
> cables with the connectors, now i am kind of practicing here until I

Oh-oh. Crimpers are for experts, not beginners. Why do you
think they're so expensive? In general, there are three key
areas for using crimpers correctly:

1) Wiring pattern -- T-568A or T-568B are not intuitive
2) Correct selection of plugs
3) Correct technique including crimpting force.

To answer your question, when I have to crimp on RJ45s (a task I
try hard to avoid), I carefully cut the jacket with a special
jacket cutter so as to not nick the pair insulation about 4" from
the end. Untrist and dress conductors into correct pattern and
twist orientation. Make guillotine cut with crimper blade 12-14
mm from end-of jacket, depending on plug design. Insert plug,
check for full insertion and double check pattern. Crimp smoothly
with sufficient force to set teeth 0.4mm below comb, yet teeth
must not bottom.

Really, your best option is to return the crimpers,
buy factory patchcords and run solid between jacks.
Looks nicer, lasts better and is more reliable.

-- Robert



Posted by jpd on July 9, 2004, 8:23 am
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> Oh-oh. Crimpers are for experts, not beginners. Why do you
> think they're so expensive?

At least here in yurop (data points for .nl and .de, don't know about
the rest) you can buy el-cheapo DIY crimpers for 10 EUR. Last time I
did that, however, it was a nightmare. Took some creative bending and
twisting of the tool and plug (including inserting from the other side)
to get it to press all leads sufficiently into the cable. Before
unscrewing and removing the mini-blade it wouldn't even completely
close at all.

If you're not aware of that and double-check, you'd end up with two to
three strands on one side N/C.

After that I used another one of the same general make that was already
bent out of shape before I got there. I think I got about one half-decent
crimp out of it (used for a serial extender with RJ45 type plugs) before
it gave way and had to be discarded.

No more el-cheapo crimptools for me.


[snip]
> Really, your best option is to return the crimpers,
> buy factory patchcords and run solid between jacks.
> Looks nicer, lasts better and is more reliable.

I'll second that. Nothing like finding out patchcables to workstations
are in fact foil-shielded by noticing the foil sticking out of the
crimps. Maybe they'll be solid, too. And then the crimps turn out to be
in an original xmas tree pattern. No wonder ``the net was slow''. Joy.


--
j p d (at) d s b (dot) t u d e l f t (dot) n l .


Posted by Robert Redelmeier on July 9, 2004, 4:08 pm
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> At least here in yurop (data points for .nl and .de,
> don't know about the rest) you can buy el-cheapo DIY
> crimpers for 10 EUR.

Sounds like a conspiracy by the venerable and ancient Guild
of Network Wirers to ensure themselves lots of business! :)

-- Robert



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