Question about Cat 7 cable
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Posted by reellifetv@hotmail.com on February 1, 2005, 2:03 pm
Please log in for more thread options pretty much everywhere, using it for both data and audio. Was originally going to use cat 5, but have instead settled on Cat 7 (which in the UK only appears to be available from Canford). It will cost quite a lot more, but it's not often I have all my floorboards up, and I'd like to future-proof as much as I can! My plan was to run the cat 7 to deep single- and double-gang metal boxes, to which I'd attach Canford connector plates with holes that will take either XLR, BNC, phono or BNC sockets. This way I have flexibility over what to feed to different locations. One concern is that Cat 7 uses solid core rather than stranded conductors - will this create problems in connecting to the various sockets? I've seen reference to needing to connect using a punchdown block, and I'm not sure how this would work in the setup I'm envisaging. This is a bit of a leap into the dark for me, representing quite a big investment plus a real headache if I put it all in, replaster my walls and lay the floors, only to find it doesn't work, so I'd be very keen for any thoughts. Many thanks, Chris | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Al Dykes on February 1, 2005, 5:10 pm
Please log in for more thread options You'll get other comments, but if you're litteral about "future proofing" you'll pull CAT-something, fiber, and maybe COAX, and plan for an an appropriate number of 802.something APs and put a CATx pull to each of those locations. Like anything else, it comes down to cost. Never heard of CAT7. What's do for me ? Stranded is for patch cords. installed UTP wiring is solid. -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by James Knott on February 1, 2005, 7:31 pm
Please log in for more thread options reellifetv@hotmail.com wrote:
> One concern is that Cat 7 uses solid core rather than stranded
> conductors - will this create problems in connecting to the various > sockets? I've seen reference to needing to connect using a punchdown > block, and I'm not sure how this would work in the setup I'm > envisaging. Is there even a CAT 7 spec? I've never heard of it. Normally, you run solid wire to the jacks and use stranded for patch cords. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Dale Farmer on February 1, 2005, 10:46 pm
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"reellifetv@hotmail.com" wrote: > I'm about to wire up my house, and have decided to run Ethernet cable
> pretty much everywhere, using it for both data and audio. > > Was originally going to use cat 5, but have instead settled on Cat 7 > (which in the UK only appears to be available from Canford). It will > cost quite a lot more, but it's not often I have all my floorboards > up, and I'd like to future-proof as much as I can! > > My plan was to run the cat 7 to deep single- and double-gang metal > boxes, to which I'd attach Canford connector plates with holes that > will take either XLR, BNC, phono or BNC sockets. This way I have > flexibility over what to feed to different locations. > > One concern is that Cat 7 uses solid core rather than stranded > conductors - will this create problems in connecting to the various > sockets? I've seen reference to needing to connect using a punchdown > block, and I'm not sure how this would work in the setup I'm > envisaging. > > This is a bit of a leap into the dark for me, representing quite a big > investment plus a real headache if I put it all in, replaster my walls > and lay the floors, only to find it doesn't work, so I'd be very > keen for any thoughts. cat 7, as a industry-wide standard, does not exist. You have one particular manufacturer's attempt to jump the gun and grab some marketshare. Go with a cat5 or 5e cable, which will be far less expensive and likely perfectly fine for your needs. As for solid wire, that's what you put into the walls. Stranded wire is for patch cords and other wiring that moves about a lot. If you really want to future proof, just install conduit from a central patch point to each location you may want something in the future. Easy enough to pull in whatever cable you need when you need it. No locking yourself into whatever today's standard is. Do be careful about fire stopping and smoke plugs to follow local building code for these conduits. --Dale | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by jtodd5 dot 1 on February 1, 2005, 5:50 pm
Please log in for more thread options Dale Farmer wrote:
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> "reellifetv@hotmail.com" wrote: > > >>I'm about to wire up my house, and have decided to run Ethernet cable
>>pretty much everywhere, using it for both data and audio. >> >>Was originally going to use cat 5, but have instead settled on Cat 7 >>(which in the UK only appears to be available from Canford). It will >>cost quite a lot more, but it's not often I have all my floorboards >>up, and I'd like to future-proof as much as I can! >> >>My plan was to run the cat 7 to deep single- and double-gang metal >>boxes, to which I'd attach Canford connector plates with holes that >>will take either XLR, BNC, phono or BNC sockets. This way I have >>flexibility over what to feed to different locations. >> >>One concern is that Cat 7 uses solid core rather than stranded >>conductors - will this create problems in connecting to the various >>sockets? I've seen reference to needing to connect using a punchdown >>block, and I'm not sure how this would work in the setup I'm >>envisaging. >> >>This is a bit of a leap into the dark for me, representing quite a big >>investment plus a real headache if I put it all in, replaster my walls >>and lay the floors, only to find it doesn't work, so I'd be very >>keen for any thoughts. >
> > cat 7, as a industry-wide standard, does not exist. You have one > particular manufacturer's attempt to jump the gun and grab some > marketshare. Go with a cat5 or 5e cable, which will be far less > expensive and likely perfectly fine for your needs. As for solid > wire, that's what you put into the walls. Stranded wire is for > patch cords and other wiring that moves about a lot. > If you really want to future proof, just install conduit from a > central patch point to each location you may want something in > the future. Easy enough to pull in whatever cable you need when > you need it. No locking yourself into whatever today's standard > is. Do be careful about fire stopping and smoke plugs to follow > local building code for these conduits. > > --Dale > > Yes, while there is no North American standard (TIA) for Cat7, there is the ISO Class F, which from a performance standpoint would be Cat7, when TIA gets to it. Manufactures that have Class F compliant product in Europe so some marketing here using Cat7/Class F. Don't use Cat5, it's not longer a recognized standard. It should be Cat5e or Cat6, depending on how much money you want to spend. As for using UTP cable for audio, I'm not too sure. I've thought about trying it at some point, but have not made it around to putting something together. I'm a little curious why you're connecting XLR's anyway? Setting pro-audio equipment as well? If so, I'd go with real audio cable instead of the Category cable for audio. That then eliminates the solid/stranded issue when soldering to the XLR/BNC connectors. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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>pretty much everywhere, using it for both data and audio.
>
>Was originally going to use cat 5, but have instead settled on Cat 7
>(which in the UK only appears to be available from Canford). It will
>cost quite a lot more, but it's not often I have all my floorboards
>up, and I'd like to future-proof as much as I can!
>
>My plan was to run the cat 7 to deep single- and double-gang metal
>boxes, to which I'd attach Canford connector plates with holes that
>will take either XLR, BNC, phono or BNC sockets. This way I have
>flexibility over what to feed to different locations.
>
>
>One concern is that Cat 7 uses solid core rather than stranded
>conductors - will this create problems in connecting to the various
>sockets? I've seen reference to needing to connect using a punchdown
>block, and I'm not sure how this would work in the setup I'm
>envisaging.
>
>This is a bit of a leap into the dark for me, representing quite a big
>investment plus a real headache if I put it all in, replaster my walls
>and lay the floors, only to find it doesn't work, so I'd be very
>keen for any thoughts.
>
>Many thanks,
>
>Chris
>