LAN and Telecom Cabling Pullling cable in conduit

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Pullling cable in conduit DecaturTxCowboy 08-08-06
Posted by DecaturTxCowboy on August 8, 2006, 12:52 am
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Someone made a comment awhile back about running a rag soaked in cable
lube through the conduit before running the cable. I use half a plastic
bag instead of a rag, but the lube pre-pull makes a big difference if
you've never tried it before.

Had a crew pulling some buried cable in 300 feet of 1-1/2" grey PVC with
three 90s and four 45s. They couldn't push a fish tape down it, so had
them try a small 2 HP Walmart shop vac that I use for general cleanup
instead of my 6 HP shop vac for that. Good tip - use half of a plastic
Walmart bag tied to a pull string and the small vac pulls it just fine
(a whole bag tends to clog up).

They ran the pull sting and there was a too much friction with the
string getting pulled around the turns. So I had then pull half a
plastic bag covered with lube in both directions. They had the whole
pull job done in ten minutes later.

Posted by D.R. on August 23, 2006, 10:50 am
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You may have exceeded the max number of bends as per NEC, and of
course would have caused problems.

What king of wire were you pulling?




>Someone made a comment awhile back about running a rag soaked in cable
>lube through the conduit before running the cable. I use half a plastic
>bag instead of a rag, but the lube pre-pull makes a big difference if
>you've never tried it before.
>
>Had a crew pulling some buried cable in 300 feet of 1-1/2" grey PVC with
>three 90s and four 45s. They couldn't push a fish tape down it, so had
>them try a small 2 HP Walmart shop vac that I use for general cleanup
>instead of my 6 HP shop vac for that. Good tip - use half of a plastic
>Walmart bag tied to a pull string and the small vac pulls it just fine
>(a whole bag tends to clog up).
>
>They ran the pull sting and there was a too much friction with the
>string getting pulled around the turns. So I had then pull half a
>plastic bag covered with lube in both directions. They had the whole
>pull job done in ten minutes later.


Posted by David Lesher on August 24, 2006, 8:54 pm
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>They ran the pull sting and there was a too much friction with the
>string getting pulled around the turns. So I had then pull half a
>plastic bag covered with lube in both directions. They had the whole
>pull job done in ten minutes later.

I've heard of cases where the nylon pull will CUT the walls of the
plastic duct at the elbow. I'd gently pull something with diameter
with the string and THEN pull in the cable with the rope..
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Posted by DecaturTxCowboy on August 25, 2006, 8:11 pm
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David Lesher wrote:
> I've heard of cases where the nylon pull will CUT the walls of the
> plastic duct at the elbow. I'd gently pull something with diameter
> with the string and THEN pull in the cable with the rope..

Oh, it WILL...trust me. Same way with that skinny white nylon string.

Electrician's pull string will too, but its thicker (wider) and more
surface area and not AS likely to cut into the PVC, but it still can if
pulled real fast.

Posted by Carl Navarro on August 25, 2006, 10:25 pm
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>David Lesher wrote:
>> I've heard of cases where the nylon pull will CUT the walls of the
>> plastic duct at the elbow. I'd gently pull something with diameter
>> with the string and THEN pull in the cable with the rope..
>
>Oh, it WILL...trust me. Same way with that skinny white nylon string.
>
>Electrician's pull string will too, but its thicker (wider) and more
>surface area and not AS likely to cut into the PVC, but it still can if
>pulled real fast.

Or slow, or a combination of speed and pressure. I just go out and
grab a hundred or 200 feet of plain old clothesline, the cotton over
nylon kind for about $3 a hundred feet, lube the snot out of it, and
pull it in place of the electricians pull string. I've even used the
rope directly if the conduit run is 100 feet or less.









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