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Power and ground in old houses Al Dykes 03-24-05
Posted by Al Dykes on March 25, 2005, 12:19 pm
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>Al Dykes wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm not going to do any electrical work. I'm asking if anything short
>> of getting a new run from the panel is acceptable practice.
>
>That's not your concern. It's the customer's responsibility to provide a
>safe power source. Make sure you use an outlet tester, should a "grounded"
>receptacle suddenly appear. It's always a good idea, to carry one of those
>testers in your tool kit.
>
>


The customer is asking _me_ for advice.

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a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.


Posted by Robert Redelmeier on March 25, 2005, 5:37 pm
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> The customer is asking _me_ for advice.

My advice would be -- it is likely possible to do something
without replacing the run, but that local codes vary and he
need to consult a licenced electrician. Of course you don't
know any, because cabler hate electricians, and vice versa :)

You don't want to give him _any_ inkling of solutions like GFI
or grounded-box screw taps because should something go wrong,
you most certainly will be liable "He told me X would work".
_You_ are seen as the expert, and consequently have additional
responsibilities.

-- Robert



Posted by Justin Time on March 25, 2005, 3:01 pm
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Al,

Everyone here seems to be singing pretty much the same tune. You don't
want to get involved in the outlet or any other part of the electrical
situation. Your responsibility ends at the end of the power cord to
your equipment. If the proper receptacle is not present, tell the
customer what is required and walk away. That way it is not your
responsibility if any and we mean _ANY_ problems arise that can be
traced back to the circuit or outlet where your equipment was connected
to the power lines.

Rodgers Platt



Posted by James Knott on March 25, 2005, 10:23 pm
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Al Dykes wrote:

> The customer is asking me for advice.
>

And the only answer, is "fix it".



Posted by Mark Evans on March 30, 2005, 7:12 pm
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> >Al Dykes wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I'm not going to do any electrical work. I'm asking if anything short
> >> of getting a new run from the panel is acceptable practice.
> >
> >That's not your concern. It's the customer's responsibility to provide a
> >safe power source. Make sure you use an outlet tester, should a "grounded"
> >receptacle suddenly appear. It's always a good idea, to carry one of those
> >testers in your tool kit.
> >
> >

> The customer is asking _me_ for advice.

In which case the best advice you can give the customer is "Get an
electrician in. Your computer/network/PBX/whatever is not going to work
well and could be dangerous without a proper electricity supply."

By the sound of things the existing stuff is not fit for connecting
*anything* to.

--
Mark Evans
St. Peter's CofE Aided School
Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109
Fax: +44 1392 204763


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