Phone + Network on 1 CAT5 cable?
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Posted by Jeremy Worrells on January 18, 2007, 2:34 pm
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> No, its not advisable. It breaks spec, and you wouldn't be able to run > Gigabit Ethernet off of it at all, since 1000-Base-T uses all 4 pairs. > > It should be Cat5e at a minimum, although who knows what the future > will bring, but you should do various forms of Cat6A for 10G if you > really want to future proof. > Thanks for all the responses. I thought this group was dead, but it appears that it's just a low-noise group. A rarity these days. Good point about the 1000Base-T. I hadn't considered that angle. While I cannot see needing gigabit E right now, video over the LAN would benefit from it. Since the house is already going to have CAT5e (I checked), I might do runs of CAT6 to each point for network and save the CAT5e for phones. Lots to think about. Jeremy -- Jeremy Worrells Unix Generalist jeremy@worrells.org | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Al Dykes on January 18, 2007, 2:46 pm
Please log in for more thread options >>>I will be moving into a new house soon and need some cable advice. The house
>>>will be wired with home-run CAT5 cables for phone. I want to use the unused >>>orange and green pairs for my network, keeping the blue pair for phone. Is >>>this advisable? I have heard reference to doing this before, but wanted the >>>opinion of experts. >>
>> No, its not advisable. It breaks spec, and you wouldn't be able to run >> Gigabit Ethernet off of it at all, since 1000-Base-T uses all 4 pairs. >> >> It should be Cat5e at a minimum, although who knows what the future >> will bring, but you should do various forms of Cat6A for 10G if you >> really want to future proof. >> >
>Thanks for all the responses. I thought this group was dead, but it appears that >it's just a low-noise group. A rarity these days. > >Good point about the 1000Base-T. I hadn't considered that angle. While I cannot >see needing gigabit E right now, video over the LAN would benefit from it. > >Since the house is already going to have CAT5e (I checked), I might do runs >of CAT6 to each point for network and save the CAT5e for phones. > >Lots to think about. > >Jeremy What is the "offical" way of carrying video over CATx wire plant? We have to seperate what I call baseband video from multichannel video. The standards will be very different. What does CATx standards have to say about HDTV? ISTM that if I was a junkie for house-wide cutting edge video, I'd pull fibre to each room. OT: If you are still pulling cable, do yourself a favor and install CATx wire for WiFi over the whole house, even if you don't put in the APs until you need to "light up" an area. You can never pull wire to enough wallplates to anticpate every use of each room and WiFi may save you from long patch cords, later. I say WiFi will be free based on teh number of pulls you *won't* run if you may want data everywhere but not sure when. APs can be powerd over the CATx and can be hidden in closets and crawlspace. Neat. No long 120v extension cords. -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Harrison for Congress in NY 13CD www.harrison06.com Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Wrolf on February 11, 2007, 1:43 pm
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wrote: > I will be moving into a new house soon and need some cable advice. The house
> will be wired with home-run CAT5 cables for phone. I want to use the unused > orange and green pairs for my network, keeping the blue pair for phone. Is > this advisable? I have heard reference to doing this before, but wanted the > opinion of experts. > > I would be terminating the cables on a 110 block, so the distribution to > a CAT5 patch panel is no big deal. > > This is a single story house with full basement, so I have access to the > cabling. Would it be easier and future-proof to run a second cable to each > box and separate the network and phone? > > Jeremy > > -- > Jeremy Worrells > Unix Generalist > jer...@worrells.org Lay out all your future cabling needs. My guess is: POTS phone(s) for use during emergencies - keep a plain old telephone service analog phone for power outs etc., and for use as a fax line. This can run on just about anything, include Cat 3/5/5e/6. I do not recommend running it on the same cable as data, even if you are prepared to run at low speed 10BaseT or LocalTalk speeds. Hardwired Data - Cat 5/5e/6, 100Base-TX, moving to 1000Base-T. Large number of devices in den, many spread through out the house, including VoIP and Video over IP. Home Theater: Audio line - 2 DIN connector twisted pair, one right one left; digital audio; fiber optic Audio speaker - 18 AWG solid conductor 1 pair per speaker Video - VHF/UHF modulated coax; component video; S-Video; ... Especially when you throw in the Home Theater stuff, this is a lot more complicated than a typical "two Cat5e for data, one Cat5e for voice" standard. My suggestion would be to assume that wireless will handle most of your future needs. Put two Cat6 at all phone or AP locations. Put lots of Cat6 in the home office. And put in conduit with drag lines everywhere, to be able to put in new stuff (fiber or whatever). Finally, put in whatever you need in the home theater area, including speaker runs to the rear and sides of the room, and out to the patio. Who knows - romantic evenings outdoors in summer... Wrolf | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by scolio on March 7, 2007, 10:13 pm
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>To follow up, I would put wall plates with standard audio jacks for home
theater, in corners of room and on a center wall for dolby surround. It would
be advisable, as far as future proofing, to put at least 2 cat6 jacks with each audio and 2 with each video. The future for broadcast could be over cat5e/cat6. These cables can carry audio and video, as well as network. although cat6 is a lot more expensive, you would be future proofed all the way around. I would even pull RG6 or 59 (can't remember which) for in house RF. that would give you the ability to install monitoring and AV support for front door security, inside cameras etc. While you're at it, pull cat6 and twisted pair auido for intercom between rooms and the front door. Make all your home runs to the basement, use cat6, and keep your phone, network, and intercom on separate blocks. Good luck! You will have put good value into your home and increased your resale. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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>>will be wired with home-run CAT5 cables for phone. I want to use the unused
>>orange and green pairs for my network, keeping the blue pair for phone. Is
>>this advisable? I have heard reference to doing this before, but wanted the
>>opinion of experts.