Phone + Network on 1 CAT5 cable?
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Posted by Jeremy Worrells on January 18, 2007, 10:12 am
Please log in for more thread options I will be moving into a new house soon and need some cable advice. The house will be wired with home-run CAT5 cables for phone. I want to use the unused orange and green pairs for my network, keeping the blue pair for phone. Is this advisable? I have heard reference to doing this before, but wanted the opinion of experts. I would be terminating the cables on a 110 block, so the distribution to a CAT5 patch panel is no big deal. This is a single story house with full basement, so I have access to the cabling. Would it be easier and future-proof to run a second cable to each box and separate the network and phone? Jeremy -- Jeremy Worrells Unix Generalist jeremy@worrells.org | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by CablingGuy on January 18, 2007, 12:48 pm
Please log in for more thread options Jeremy Worrells skrev: least Cat5E performance for this to work correctly. > I would be terminating the cables on a 110 block, so the distribution to
There are no reason to use anything else than a 110 block, a good 110
> a CAT5 patch panel is no big deal. > block is at least cat5 > This is a single story house with full basement, so I have access to the
There are _NO_ futureprofing in using cat5, that is at least 10 years
> cabling. Would it be easier and future-proof to run a second cable to each > box and separate the network and phone? > past the time where it was future proof. You should run 2 cables to each outlet, at least Cat6, preferably Cat6A the last will give you good futureproofing. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by cablegooch on February 8, 2007, 10:18 pm
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CablingGuy wrote: > Jeremy Worrells skrev:
>> I will be moving into a new house soon and need some cable advice.
>> The house >> will be wired with home-run CAT5 cables for phone. I want to use >> the unused >> orange and green pairs for my network, keeping the blue pair for >> phone. Is >> this advisable? I have heard reference to doing this before, but >> wanted the >> opinion of experts. >> >> On a quailty system this can be done. But the system should have at > least Cat5E performance for this to work correctly.
>> I would be terminating the cables on a 110 block, so the
>> distribution to >> a CAT5 patch panel is no big deal. >> >> There are no reason to use anything else than a 110 block, a good 110 > block is at least cat5
>> This is a single story house with full basement, so I have access
>> to the >> cabling. Would it be easier and future-proof to run a second cable >> to each >> box and separate the network and phone? >> >> There are _NO_ futureprofing in using cat5, that is at least 10 years > past the time where it was future proof.
> You should run 2 cables to each outlet, at least Cat6, preferably Cat6A
> the last will give you good futureproofing.
The only way too future proof your home is with fiber optics inside the house there are a few places that have a pretty nice setup for such a task, such as the wiring the cablinets and so on, as for splitting the single cat5/cat5e/cat6 what i havnt seenmentioned is the eia/tia standard which states that one device per cable, for the computerside. if your gonna install cat6 best bet is too look into fih(fiber in the house) esp if you have FTH(fiber to the home) available here is a link too one such place i have found www.tenvera.com -- +----------------------------------------------------------+ | http://forums.cabling-design.com/ | | *** a better way to USENET *** | | no-spam Web and RSS interface to your favorite newsgroup | | comp.dcom.cabling - 3100 messages and counting! | +----------------------------------------------------------+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Robert Redelmeier on February 9, 2007, 1:41 pm
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> The only way too future proof your home is with fiber optics
> inside the house Oh? Which fiber? I know of at least 3 different possibilities, and none has such critical mass that will compel its' adoption by the time fiber becomes really needed. In short, I expect a new fiber (particularly easier to terminate). "Future-proofing" is a rationalization: the future is uncertain. No-one knows if pre-investment in Cat6 will pay off. It becomes a judgment/probability call. If Cat6 is 10% more total-installed-cost than Cat5e then it might be a good bet. If Cat6 is 100% more (double), it almost certainly is not. -- Robert | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Doug McIntyre on February 10, 2007, 6:52 pm
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chris_at_asn-inc_dot_com@foo.com (cablegooch) writes: >The only way too future proof your home is with fiber optics inside the
>house... Oh? So, if you future proof'ed your home 15 years ago with fiber, what would you be using it for now? Did you choose a format and connector that would be currently used today? OOTH, any copper pulled 15 years ago would be fairly worthless now too except for the most basic functions like single POTS phone line daisy chained in the house. FTTH installs expect and have no consideration of fiber in the house. No fiber will actually enter the house, they terminate it to a demarc box on the outside of the house like your existing cable/phone demarcs. Future proofing is just a big gamble that you'll be able to predict the future and what it'll bring. Right now, I'd say the most future-proofing you can do is to install conduit from a central wiring area out to each jack location you'd want so you can use whatever you have installed now to pull the newest/next thing through the conduit in the future. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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> will be wired with home-run CAT5 cables for phone. I want to use the unused
> orange and green pairs for my network, keeping the blue pair for phone. Is
> this advisable? I have heard reference to doing this before, but wanted the
> opinion of experts.
>