LAN and Telecom Cabling Phantom CAT5 Wiring Problems ?

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Phantom CAT5 Wiring Problems ? jacob 07-06-07
Posted by on July 6, 2007, 12:21 pm
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We have problems sending out data (emails with attachments, ftp
transfers etc...) from our ethernet network. We have full download
speeds of over 5mbps, but our upload speeds are >100kbps.

We are receiving our internet connection from another building in the
commercial center we are in. We've isolated the problem to a CAT5
cable running in a metal conduit under the parking lot. We isolated
this by testing the speed at various points in the network. Computers
before these cables run fine, but all of them after have these slow
upload speeds.

The strange part is that there are five (5) CAT 5's ran through that
conduit, and all of them are having the same strange problem. We only
use one, but tested them all.

Do you know what could cause this kind of data loss, but only in one
direction? I was thinking the conduit filled up with water, but why
doesn't it affect the speed both ways?

Thanks in advance for any insight you can offer...

Jacob


Posted by Robert Redelmeier on July 6, 2007, 8:48 pm
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jacob@ayresgroup.net wrote in part:
> We have problems sending out data (emails with attachments,
> ftp transfers etc...) from our ethernet network. We have full
> download speeds of over 5mbps, but our upload speeds are >100kbps.

This is normal behaviour for networks with a cable or
ASDL uplink. But I'm guessing you've got a T-1 or T-3.

> We are receiving our internet connection from another building in
> the commercial center we are in. We've isolated the problem to
> a CAT5 cable running in a metal conduit under the parking lot.

Hazardous to equipmen since nearby lightening strikes will
create a gound potential difference between the different
buildings ground-stakes.

> We isolated this by testing the speed at various points in
> the network. Computers before these cables run fine, but all
> of them after have these slow upload speeds.

> The strange part is that there are five (5) CAT 5's ran through
> that conduit, and all of them are having the same strange problem.
> We only use one, but tested them all.

> Do you know what could cause this kind of data loss, but only in
> one direction? I was thinking the conduit filled up with water,
> but why doesn't it affect the speed both ways?

If it isn't asymmetric network (and other stations seem to
confirm it is not), then the symptoms are prefectly consistant
with a split pair. One direction is fine, the other crappy.

Find the ends of the cable outside the conduit. Are they plugs?
Or are they jacks (female)? Check the color code. If they are
plugs, look carefully through the plastic and read off the colors.

If these have been field crimped by an inexpert person, it
is likely they were improperly arranged, splitting a pair.
Electrons may be color blind, but they know who their dance
[twist] partners are. The correct crimpings are non-intuitive.

-- Robert


Posted by Dan Chatha on July 8, 2007, 8:20 am
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Robert Redelmeier wrote:
> jacob@ayresgroup.net wrote in part:
> > We have problems sending out data (emails with attachments,
> > ftp transfers etc...) from our ethernet network. We have full
> > download speeds of over 5mbps, but our upload speeds are >100kbps.
>
> This is normal behaviour for networks with a cable or
> ASDL uplink. But I'm guessing you've got a T-1 or T-3.
>
> > We are receiving our internet connection from another building in
> > the commercial center we are in. We've isolated the problem to
> > a CAT5 cable running in a metal conduit under the parking lot.
>
> Hazardous to equipmen since nearby lightening strikes will
> create a gound potential difference between the different
> buildings ground-stakes.
>
> > We isolated this by testing the speed at various points in
> > the network. Computers before these cables run fine, but all
> > of them after have these slow upload speeds.
>
> > The strange part is that there are five (5) CAT 5's ran through
> > that conduit, and all of them are having the same strange problem.
> > We only use one, but tested them all.
>
> > Do you know what could cause this kind of data loss, but only in
> > one direction? I was thinking the conduit filled up with water,
> > but why doesn't it affect the speed both ways?
>
> If it isn't asymmetric network (and other stations seem to
> confirm it is not), then the symptoms are prefectly consistant
> with a split pair. One direction is fine, the other crappy.
>
> Find the ends of the cable outside the conduit. Are they plugs?
> Or are they jacks (female)? Check the color code. If they are
> plugs, look carefully through the plastic and read off the colors.
>
> If these have been field crimped by an inexpert person, it
> is likely they were improperly arranged, splitting a pair.
> Electrons may be color blind, but they know who their dance
> [twist] partners are. The correct crimpings are non-intuitive.
>
> -- Robert



mycomputer > properties > device manager > network adapter > your lan
card > select properties > select from link speed and duplex > change
the value to Auto full duplex.

see if that work by changing value


regards

Adnan


Posted by Dan Chatha on July 8, 2007, 8:22 am
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Dan Chatha wrote:
> Robert Redelmeier wrote:
> > jacob@ayresgroup.net wrote in part:
> > > We have problems sending out data (emails with attachments,
> > > ftp transfers etc...) from our ethernet network. We have full
> > > download speeds of over 5mbps, but our upload speeds are >100kbps.
> >
> > This is normal behaviour for networks with a cable or
> > ASDL uplink. But I'm guessing you've got a T-1 or T-3.
> >
> > > We are receiving our internet connection from another building in
> > > the commercial center we are in. We've isolated the problem to
> > > a CAT5 cable running in a metal conduit under the parking lot.
> >
> > Hazardous to equipmen since nearby lightening strikes will
> > create a gound potential difference between the different
> > buildings ground-stakes.
> >
> > > We isolated this by testing the speed at various points in
> > > the network. Computers before these cables run fine, but all
> > > of them after have these slow upload speeds.
> >
> > > The strange part is that there are five (5) CAT 5's ran through
> > > that conduit, and all of them are having the same strange problem.
> > > We only use one, but tested them all.
> >
> > > Do you know what could cause this kind of data loss, but only in
> > > one direction? I was thinking the conduit filled up with water,
> > > but why doesn't it affect the speed both ways?
> >
> > If it isn't asymmetric network (and other stations seem to
> > confirm it is not), then the symptoms are prefectly consistant
> > with a split pair. One direction is fine, the other crappy.
> >
> > Find the ends of the cable outside the conduit. Are they plugs?
> > Or are they jacks (female)? Check the color code. If they are
> > plugs, look carefully through the plastic and read off the colors.
> >
> > If these have been field crimped by an inexpert person, it
> > is likely they were improperly arranged, splitting a pair.
> > Electrons may be color blind, but they know who their dance
> > [twist] partners are. The correct crimpings are non-intuitive.
> >
> > -- Robert
>
>
>
> mycomputer > properties > device manager > network adapter > your lan
> card > select properties > select from link speed and duplex > change
> the value to Auto full duplex.
>
> see if that work by changing value
>
>
> regards
>
> Adnan


from auto to full duplex


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